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Ghost_Skeptic
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 Posted - 06/21/2007 : 06:55:02 [Permalink]
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| That is still 4 years ago. |
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. / You can send a kid to college but you can't make him think." - B.B. King
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"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler
"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell
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JEROME DA GNOME
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 Posted - 06/21/2007 : 06:57:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ghost_Skeptic
That is still 4 years ago.
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Now, thats reaching!
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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furshur
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 07:47:19 [Permalink]
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Jerome, today, June 21, 2007 there is consensus among climatologists that man is contributing to global warming. This is a fact, it is not an opinion, it is fact.
If your opinion is with the minority of climatologist that do not agree with the consensus that is fine. But trying to argue that there is not consensus is wrong.
It is that simple.
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If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 08:31:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Now, thats reaching! |
Not when the research has been moving so quickly. Four years is two-thirds of an entire IPCC report cycle. |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 15:52:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Originally posted by Ghost_Skeptic
That is still 4 years ago.
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Now, thats reaching!
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"Reaching"? This, from a grasper-at-straws?
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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JohnOAS
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 18:25:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Originally posted by Ghost_Skeptic
That is still 4 years ago.
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Now, thats reaching!
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2003 is 4 years ago from 2007.
8 out of 10 Mathematicians agree. The other two muttered something about fractional parts of a year, sometimes referred to as "months" being involved somehow.
Regardless, I'd say it's a pretty good calculation. |
John's just this guy, you know. |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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 Posted - 06/21/2007 : 18:51:39 [Permalink]
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How many are part of the consensus. You do not know and you can not tell. I told you all before and referenced the IPCC documents and the testimony of a main author.
Did anyone happen to read the science I linked concerning the suns effect on global temperature change? Whats wrong with this science besides the fact it flys in the face of your faith?
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 21:51:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
How many are part of the consensus. You do not know and you can not tell. |
The very question demonstrates that you've got no idea what a "scientific consensus" is.| I told you all before and referenced the IPCC documents and the testimony of a main author. |
No, you didn't do what you think you did.| Did anyone happen to read the science I linked concerning the suns effect on global temperature change? Whats wrong with this science besides the fact it flys in the face of your faith? |
Actually, it'd be nice if you linked to the actual science instead of a popular-press article about the science. Science reporting is notoriously sub-par. |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 21:53:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
How many are part of the consensus. You do not know and you can not tell. |
The very question demonstrates that you've got no idea what a "scientific consensus" is.| I told you all before and referenced the IPCC documents and the testimony of a main author. |
No, you didn't do what you think you did.| Did anyone happen to read the science I linked concerning the suns effect on global temperature change? Whats wrong with this science besides the fact it flys in the face of your faith? |
Actually, it'd be nice if you linked to the actual science instead of a popular-press article about the science. Science reporting is notoriously sub-par.
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Always with the excuses when the facts do not fit your beliefs.
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 21:56:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Always with the excuses when the facts do not fit your beliefs. |
And I see now that you are refusing to present the evidence that you claim exists, again. |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 22:01:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Always with the excuses when the facts do not fit your beliefs. |
And I see now that you are refusing to present the evidence that you claim exists, again.
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I presented the evidence several times on many pages during this talk (3 topics, I think). Within 40 or so pages is the evidence you desire.
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 22:08:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
I presented the evidence several times on many pages during this talk (3 topics, I think). Within 40 or so pages is the evidence you desire. |
And it now becomes apparent that you're willing to ignore the recent context of a discussion while demanding that other's pay attention to it. |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 22:10:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
I presented the evidence several times on many pages during this talk (3 topics, I think). Within 40 or so pages is the evidence you desire. |
And it now becomes apparent that you're willing to ignore the recent context of a discussion while demanding that other's pay attention to it.
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I am very much enjoying the passive aggressive use of your new word.
You are funny when you choose.
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 22:15:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
I am very much enjoying the passive aggressive use of your new word.
You are funny when you choose. |
But still, you fail to present the science behind your latest "debunking." |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 22:32:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
I am very much enjoying the passive aggressive use of your new word.
You are funny when you choose. |
But still, you fail to present the science behind your latest "debunking."
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I presented it in my link. The news is the sun is warming the planet. Not co2.
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Debunked-"world wide scientific consensus"
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