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JEROME DA GNOME
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Sir Francis Galton; cousin of Charles Darwin, used evolution to promote eugenics (a science that deals with the improvement of hereditary qualities of a race).
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 05/27/2007 : 18:01:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Sir Francis Galton; cousin of Charles Darwin, used evolution to promote eugenics (a science that deals with the improvement of hereditary qualities of a race).
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So? The same could be said of the bible.
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 05/27/2007 : 18:09:45 [Permalink]
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| Oh, come on. Now you're just starting arguments for the sake of being confrontational. |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 05/27/2007 : 19:07:07 [Permalink]
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So, by (presumably) noting abuses of a so-called "Social Darwinists," you are making what point? How does someone distorting a theory detract from the validity of the actual theory, and how do the actions of a cousin of Darwin smear Darwin, for that matter? I had a cousin who was an Oxford Don and a theocratic fundamentalist. That is irrelevant to my being an atheist.
And, of course, evidence, please.
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furshur
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Posted - 05/27/2007 : 20:24:48 [Permalink]
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| Sir Francis Galton; cousin of Charles Darwin, used evolution to promote eugenics (a science that deals with the improvement of hereditary qualities of a race). |
Yes, he apparently coined the term too. He was also a whiz at statistics and pioneered many of the statistical tools commonly used today.
Is there some sort of point to your post, or are you just making conversation?
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Dave W.
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Posted - 05/27/2007 : 21:55:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Sir Francis Galton; cousin of Charles Darwin, used evolution to promote eugenics (a science that deals with the improvement of hereditary qualities of a race). |
Except that eugenics is artifical selection, while Darwin's breakthrough was common descent and natural selection.
Really, the resurgence of the whole "eugenics" thing is a two-month old ploy by the Discovery Institute to try once again to discredit modern evolutionary theory, this time with guilt-by-association and ad hominems. None of it matters to the fact or the science of evolution.
Jerome, by mindlessly parroting Discovery Institute talking points, has simply ensured that even fewer people will take him seriously. |
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Posted - 05/27/2007 : 23:10:39 [Permalink]
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Next thing we know Jerome will be blaming Nazis and the Holocaust on Darwin and Evolution, instead of the real motivation for German hatred of Jews, Martin Luther.
You really should give this type of idiocy a rest Jerome.
Do you have any idea how stupid you look when you pop in with an imbecilic statement like your OP here?
Stop trolling and try engaging in an actual conversation, if you are capable of it.
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 00:11:21 [Permalink]
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Ricky said:
| Point is, I would say Jerome is far from being a troll. |
I disagree.
| a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding |
How can the OP of this thread be ANYTHING other than Jerome trolling for a response?
I'll admit he isn't a very good troll, but he is a troll none the less.
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dv82matt
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 04:12:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Sir Francis Galton; cousin of Charles Darwin, used evolution to promote eugenics (a science that deals with the improvement of hereditary qualities of a race).
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And religion is a tool of persecution. Automobiles are tools of global warming. Food is a tool of obesity. Water is a tool of drowning.
It sorta gets ridiculous after awhile. |
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perrodetokio
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 08:18:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by dv82matt
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Sir Francis Galton; cousin of Charles Darwin, used evolution to promote eugenics (a science that deals with the improvement of hereditary qualities of a race).
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And religion is a tool of persecution. Automobiles are tools of global warming. Food is a tool of obesity. Water is a tool of drowning.
It sorta gets ridiculous after awhile.
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 08:28:51 [Permalink]
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Dave, I do not know the Discovery Institute, I come up with this stuff on my own. Give me more credit that that.
The point is to hear all your thoughts on evolution and eugenics; and discus them. I have stated facts that were confirmed by another poster in this tread; this hardly makes me a troll.
My purpose is discussion and research, I find that this group generally has good background knowledge of the subjects that interest me. Nothing I post is meant to be either "inflammatory" nor "derogatory".
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 08:36:39 [Permalink]
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| Man, he did make the thread! |
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evolution is a tool of eugenics
