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JEROME DA GNOME
BANNED
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 Posted - 06/23/2007 : 15:23:36 [Permalink]
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Ricky, the various theories you presented as to why this happens are also called for in this document. Would you presume that the stated goals of government with the goals being reached are nothing more than coincidence.
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 06/23/2007 : 21:22:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Halfmooner said "Will you admit that the very subject of the OP, "American Education used by National Gov," was dishonest or wildly incorrect, and that the policy paper in question was former US foreign policy and that the US Federal government never has and is not now forcing US public schools to teach kids that only two kids in a family is ideal?"
Do you have any evidence that this policy is no longer being implemented?
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Classic trolling tactic: Make a wildly unsupportable statement, then demand others to prove it's not so.
We simply don't have to prove a negative, Jerome. You have to prove your original staement.
(You never read my link about how critical thinking works, did you?)
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 06/23/2007 : 21:32:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Originally posted by Ricky
Do you have any evidence that this policy is no longer being implemented? |
You have yet to show any instance of this policy ever actually being used.
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http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4847a1.htm
"Since 1972, the average family size has leveled off at approximately two children"
A stated goal, a goal achieved.
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The 1974 foreign policy paper was about trying to lower birthrates in Third World countries. Even though you choose to ignore that glaring fact, and not to respond to my challenge, that fact remains.
So: WTF does the declining birthrate in the USA have to do with this? You moved the goalposts yet again, another blatantly dishonest trolling technique. And you know what? You fooled nobody. Every spectator in the grandstands saw you move 'em.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 06/23/2007 : 21:41:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
So: WTF does the declining birthrate in the USA have to do with this? You moved the goalposts yet again, another blatantly dishonest trolling technique. And you know what? You fooled nobody. Every spectator in the grandstands saw you move 'em. |
Tis true! |
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 06/23/2007 : 23:24:49 [Permalink]
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OK, the CDC data are from 72, the memo is from 74. There is about a 20 year period in which this could not be policy during which birth rates fell off to approx. 2 children per family. As the folks having children were educated at least 20 years prior to the memos existence your data are inappropriate and show nothing Jerome.
Additionally, even the wikipedia article states: 13 countries are named in the report as particularly problematic with respect to U.S. security interests: India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, Thailand, the Philippines, Turkey, Nigeria, Egypt, Ethiopia, Mexico, Colombia, and Brazil. These countries are projected to create 47 percent of all world population growth.
Nowhere in there do I see this policy directed at US public schools. Your conclusion is incorrect and has no relevance to the document you use for support.
I fall within the same group as the others, I do believe that we need to take steps to control our population and only have one child. |
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American Education used by National Gov
