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 "Astronomers using a giant telescope say they have found glimpses of the most distant -- and oldest -- galaxies ever seen, it will be reported Tuesday evening."
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  Is this far away of long ago?
 
  
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  10:07:09   [Permalink]
  
                 
  
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 The writeup in that blub is distrubingly ignorant, here's the quote...
 
 Astronomers using a giant telescope say they have found glimpses of the most distant -- and oldest -- galaxies ever seen, it will be reported Tuesday evening. 
  The light researchers viewed has been traveling through distant space for billions of years, it will be claimed.  |  
 
  And yes Jerome, is is far away of long ago, near the Death Star. 
  -Im guessing its probably 13.5 billion years old, and is much farther away than that by now. | 
 
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  "...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book,  De Morte Peregrini | 
 
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 Didn't we run a thread on that sometime back? I seem to remember one...
 
  
 
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 Drudge.... HAHAHA!
  That guy is such a clown .
 
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|  Bombastic, to say the least. Must be a slow news day at the National Perspirer. | 
 
  "We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  16:34:46   [Permalink]
  
  
  
  
                 
  
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|  It might have come over the news wires. We will have to wait and see if this is something new. I agree that Drudge is a joke, however. | 
 
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 Well, over at Scientific American, they've got something on the topics:Astronomers say they have discovered a handful of relatively small galaxies that date to 500 million years after the big bang, or several hundred million years earlier than the previous oldest galaxies. The ancient objects may have initiated a key event called reionization that led to the clumping of small galaxies into larger ones.
  Confirming the finding will take additional work, but if true, "it's scratching the edge of the universe," says astronomer Richard Ellis of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, who took part in the research. "We're really pushing out our telescopes to new limits to find these objects." |  
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 Originally posted by Dude
  Drudge.... HAHAHA!
  That guy is such a clown .
 
 
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  What is wrong with the Drudge report? It mostly links to news articles. Both sides of the political aisle leak information through him.
  I am confused.
 
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  What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell | 
 
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 Posted - 07/10/2007 :  18:45:19   [Permalink]
  
                 
  
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 Originally posted by Kil
  It might have come over the news wires. We will have to wait and see if this is something new. I agree that Drudge is a joke, however.
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  Looks like Drudge was ahead of the curve thanks cune.
 
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  What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell | 
 
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 Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME What is wrong with the Drudge report? It mostly links to news articles. Both sides of the political aisle leak information through him.
  I am confused. |   It's been well documented that Drudge will, well, link to news articles that further a certain (*ahem*right-wing*ahem) agenda over others (e.g. here, for starters). | 
 
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 The fact that you have to ask what is wrong with the Drudge Report, Jerome, tells us much about you.
 
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 Originally posted by Cuneiformist
 
 Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME What is wrong with the Drudge report? It mostly links to news articles. Both sides of the political aisle leak information through him.
  I am confused. |   It's been well documented that Drudge will, well, link to news articles that further a certain (*ahem*right-wing*ahem) agenda over others (e.g. here, for starters).
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  Apparently, you do not read the report; only reports about the report.
  Not very skeptical.
 
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  What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell | 
 
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 Originally posted by Dude
  The fact that you have to ask what is wrong with the Drudge Report, Jerome, tells us much about you.
 
 
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  GOP SEX from the drudge report!
  One must read before claiming knowledge of the text. I get tons of amusing stories about the follies of the GOP.
 
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 So shat?
  Drudge is an imbecile, and the fact that you don't notice any problems with him or his site is a telling bit of data about you, Jerome.
 
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 Originally posted by Dude
  So shat?
  Drudge is an imbecile, and the fact that you don't notice any problems with him or his site is a telling bit of data about you, Jerome.
 
 
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  Why would you discount someone who is provided advance information from both sides of politics?
  Are you still angry over the dress?
 
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  What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell | 
 
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 Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
 
 Originally posted by Dude
  So shat?
  Drudge is an imbecile, and the fact that you don't notice any problems with him or his site is a telling bit of data about you, Jerome.
 
 
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  Why would you discount someone who is provided advance information from both sides of politics?
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  So, you think that the presentation of the earliest know galaxy is a political statement?
 
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