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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 07/11/2007 :  23:06:51  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Last weekend, Kent Couch settled down in his lawn chair with some snacks -- and a parachute. Attached to his lawn chair were 105 large helium balloons.



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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  02:23:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mythbusters did a test of this and wrote it down as a hoax.

Edited to add:
The episode I was thinking of was just ordinary balloons, filled with Neon (I think), which didn't even lift the dog(?) they strapped to them.

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filthy
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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  05:49:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Didn't some other idiot pull this same gag a couple of years ago? I seem to recall that the federal aviation folks had some harsh words for him when he finally got down.

Heh, as I recall, his version of ballast was a pellet gun.




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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  05:52:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, apparently it was real enough:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19694083/

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Note: if I remember correctly the Mythbusters did do this one very close to this and successfully got Adam up in the air. Don't remember if it was Confirmed/Plausible/Busted.

Fixed the too long url link.

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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  06:10:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
From Wiki

Could Larry Walters have flown a lawn chair by means of weather balloons, and descend safely by means of an airgun? Confirmed Adam Savage went up in the MythBuster's rig, which was a lawn chair with 16 plastic weather balloons attached, and went up to the maximum height that could be obtained with the safety ropes attached, 75 feet (22.5 m). He safely descended by shooting out some of the balloons. The actual event behind the myth was verified by documents provided by the FAA.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  07:13:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, there's a distict difference between Helium and Neon when it comes to lift.

Ordinary carneval balloons aren't filled with helium, because it's too expensive and it leaks out of the balloons too quickly.

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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  12:56:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am thinking about trying this.

What do you guys think?

Should I?


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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  12:58:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

I am thinking about trying this.

What do you guys think?

Should I?




If you do, make sure you check your Sectional Charts to see at what altitude you start violating FAA airspace...because when/if you get down you will have a hefty fine waiting for you.

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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  13:47:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Mythbusters have done three tests of flying via helium.

One reproduced Larry Walters' ride (3rd pilot). The second (episode 23) was a test of how many normal helium-filled party balloons it would take to launch a child (checking the story of the balloon vendor who gives his whole bunch to a kid who sails away, but nobody carries 3,500 balloons around). The third (episode 60) tried to get rubber rafts filled with helium to float.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  14:11:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It must be my faulty memory of the second program I saw.
Are you really sure they used pure helium for that test? I distinctly recall telling my girlfriend about the gas not being optimal for lift, because of the mix of gas marked on the tubes.

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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  15:01:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mab, helium is sold at "party stores" all over the US just for inflating birthday balloons. The optimal gas for lift would be hydrogen, but it has a tendency to catch fire.

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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  15:08:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Mab, helium is sold at "party stores" all over the US just for inflating birthday balloons. The optimal gas for lift would be hydrogen, but it has a tendency to catch fire.




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