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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 07/18/2007 :  03:52:37  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Alexander Cockburn writes on respect for human life:

Lawrence McGuire, a North Carolinian now teaching in Montpellier, France, organized a meeting of antiwar Americans and various interested French parties there at which I spoke last fall. Since then, we've been discussing off and on the strange fact that while two-thirds of all Americans oppose the war in Iraq and want the troops to come home, the antiwar movement is pretty much dead. McGuire raises the matter of direct solidarity with Iraqis fighting the US presence in Iraq. In other words, support their troops:

"I was reading a recent piece by Phyllis Bennis recently. She talked about the 'US military casualties' and the 'Iraqi civilian victims' and it struck me that the grand taboo of the antiwar movement is to show the slightest empathy for the resistance fighters in Iraq. They are never mentioned as people for whom we should show concern, much less admiration.

"But of course, if you are going to sympathize with the US soldiers, who are fighting a war of aggression, than surely you should also sympathize with the soldiers who are fighting for their homeland. Perhaps not until the antiwar movement starts to some degree recognizing that they should include 'the Iraqi resistance fighters' in their pantheon of victims (in addition to US soldiers and Iraqi civilians) will there be the necessary critical mass to have a real movement."


More discussion here, and links to the Nation pieces.

http://blogs.zmag.org/node/3099

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 07/18/2007 :  04:19:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just a comment: An "antiwar" position does not support the combatants of either side.


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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 07/18/2007 :  05:28:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think they might support humanity on all sides without supporting the combat.

In fact, I think many anti-war people would support the right to defend one's self and one's family and country, and not the right to criminally attack other people as the U.S. has.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 07/18/2007 :  06:24:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

I think they might support humanity on all sides without supporting the combat.

In fact, I think many anti-war people would support the right to defend one's self and one's family and country, and not the right to criminally attack other people as the U.S. has.
Agree. The right to defend yourself is universal.




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