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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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 Posted - 08/08/2007 : 07:26:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by andymonk
I know its not a very good explaination but its hard to explain. If anyone can see what i,m trying to say,could they try and explain it better. If you drew a circle on a wallpapered wall,would you call that a ringed sample of the wallpaper? |
I am sorry. I still don't get it at all. Your initial post asked if a particular symbol was "the COMPLETE ancient flower of life." I would like to hazard a guess, but have no idea what the "ancient flower of life," complete or not. Is this flower a real tangible object? Could I pick one while walking through a field? Do please try to explain what you're getting at! |
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andymonk
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 17:30:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
Originally posted by andymonk
I know its not a very good explaination but its hard to explain. If anyone can see what i,m trying to say,could they try and explain it better. If you drew a circle on a wallpapered wall,would you call that a ringed sample of the wallpaper? |
I am sorry. I still don't get it at all. Your initial post asked if a particular symbol was "the COMPLETE ancient flower of life." I would like to hazard a guess, but have no idea what the "ancient flower of life," complete or not. Is this flower a real tangible object? Could I pick one while walking through a field? Do please try to explain what you're getting at!
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The"flower of life" is not a flower,that is the name given to this ancient symbol. |
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andymonk
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 18:23:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by andymonk
Any opinions? |
Yeah, there are only so-many hexagonal designs that are easily created with compass and straightedge. |
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Dave W.
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 18:26:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by andymonk...
This may be of interest. I believe,the symbol on this knights templar tombstone(link1),found in the st magnus cathedral,kirkwall,orkney,scotland(link2),is a representation of the egg of life(sacred geometry,link3),which is found within the first layer of the complete flower of life. Any opinions? |
Yes. I am of the opinion that you are obsessing over the origin and/or distribution of a simple, common geometric design. It is a design which, with no doubt, would be independently created time and time again given a grade school full of children armed with compasses and paper. Certainly the independent creation of the design by various artisans throughout the ages can't be that difficult to fathom. I would find it surprising if such a simple geometric construction wasn't used to embellish buildings, walls, sculptures, etc., for as long as humans have carved decorative shapes in wood or stone.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 08/10/2007 : 18:53:37 [Permalink]
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How to draw "the first layer of the complete flower of life"- Obtain a compass. Set it to whatever radius you desire.
- Draw a circle.
- Pick any point along the circle you drew in step 2, and use it as a center point to draw a second circle.
- Use the two points where the circles from steps 2 and 3 intersect as the center points to draw two more circles.
- Pick any intersection of any two circles that has not yet been used as the center of a circle, and use it as a center point to draw another circle.
- Repeat step five, using all intersections closest to the circle you drew in step 2 first, until you've drawn nineteen circles, total.
The idea that there's anything sacred about this geometry is ludicrous. |
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andymonk
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Posted - 08/17/2007 : 14:24:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
How to draw "the first layer of the complete flower of life"- Obtain a compass. Set it to whatever radius you desire.
- Draw a circle.
- Pick any point along the circle you drew in step 2, and use it as a center point to draw a second circle.
- Use the two points where the circles from steps 2 and 3 intersect as the center points to draw two more circles.
- Pick any intersection of any two circles that has not yet been used as the center of a circle, and use it as a center point to draw another circle.
- Repeat step five, using all intersections closest to the circle you drew in step 2 first, until you've drawn nineteen circles, total.
The idea that there's anything sacred about this geometry is ludicrous.
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I agree,it is very easy to draw the incomplete flower of life. Can you explain or draw the COMPLETE flower of life? |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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Posted - 08/17/2007 : 16:05:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by andymonk
I agree,it is very easy to draw the incomplete flower of life. Can you explain or draw the COMPLETE flower of life?
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The "COMPLETE flower of life" is what? How is this significant in the real world, and where's your evidence?
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recurve boy
Skeptic Friend
Australia
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Posted - 08/17/2007 : 16:15:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by andymonk
I agree,it is very easy to draw the incomplete flower of life. Can you explain or draw the COMPLETE flower of life?
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It appears to be the basic pattern repeated in different sizes. If d is the diameter of the basic circle, there appear to be circles of 2d. The pattern of the large circles follows the same layout of the smaller circles.
The easiest way to see how often the pattern repeats: just draw it out (in say, GIMP) |
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
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Posted - 08/17/2007 : 16:36:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner...
The "COMPLETE flower of life" is what? How is this significant in the real world, and where's your evidence? |
Remember the OP, 'Mooner...Right there he asks whether something is or is not the complete ancient flower of life. Add that to the fact that he hasn't posted any sort of articulate response when asked to define it. Apparently even andymonk doesn't know what it is.
Hey, andymonk, if you ever actually do figure out what the complete ancient flower of life is, come back and let us know, will ya?
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 08/17/2007 : 16:57:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by GeeMack
Originally posted by HalfMooner...
The "COMPLETE flower of life" is what? How is this significant in the real world, and where's your evidence? |
Remember the OP, 'Mooner...Right there he asks whether something is or is not the complete ancient flower of life. Add that to the fact that he hasn't posted any sort of articulate response when asked to define it. Apparently even andymonk doesn't know what it is.
Hey, andymonk, if you ever actually do figure out what the complete ancient flower of life is, come back and let us know, will ya?
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My bad.
We were supposed to find the flower for him, I guess, and he'd know what to do with it then.
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 08/17/2007 : 17:18:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by andymonk
The"flower of life" is not a flower,that is the name given to this ancient symbol. |
So what's the point? I'm not sure what the question is, or what you're suggesting. |
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andymonk
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Posted - 08/31/2007 : 12:12:03 [Permalink]
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| Unlike other mandala,the complete ancient flower of life has no design,measurement or straight lines. The complete flower grows organically from the first circle onwards,it draws itself. This is one of the reasons why the flower is called the creation mandala. I forgot to add...... the flower should be contemplated in darkness,only have the computer on,no lights. :) |
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Dave W.
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Unknown ancient geometry
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