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H. Humbert
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  00:06:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
It would seem Dave knew too much. Unfortunately somebody silenced him before he could reveal the truth. Aw, too bad for you, Andy. Must suck to get that close and then still not find out what it all means.

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andymonk
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  08:07:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send andymonk a Private Message
At its highest level the G(like all letters and numbers)is a symbol. The complete flower of life is THEE template. If you overlay the complete flower with a sheet of tracing paper,you will be able to draw out any known alphabet.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  10:44:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by andymonk

If you overlay the complete flower with a sheet of tracing paper,you will be able to draw out any known alphabet.
You can do that with any regular tiling of the plane. The "Flower" is not - and cannot be - special in that regard.

But I'd like to see your Flower-based ASL alphabet.

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andymonk
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  12:49:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send andymonk a Private Message
Originally posted by andymonk

At its highest level the G(like all letters and numbers)is a symbol. The complete flower of life is THEE template. If you overlay the complete flower with a sheet of tracing paper,you will be able to draw out any known alphabet.

Please replace draw with trace.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  13:12:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by andymonk

Please replace draw with trace.
We knew what you meant. Please show us your tracings of the ASL alphabet.

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andymonk
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  15:14:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send andymonk a Private Message
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by andymonk

Please replace draw with trace.
We knew what you meant. Please show us your tracings of the ASL alphabet.
written alphabet
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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  16:21:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by andymonk

written alphabet
Well, hey, lots of people can trace out the ASL alphabet on a grid of simple squares:



If you can't do it on the "Flower," then I guess that's another "Flower failure," like gridding the Earth.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  17:48:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
The Swedish Hand Alphabet is different.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/08/2007 :  21:59:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

The Swedish Hand Alphabet is different.
But still, it can also be traced on a grid of squares, like every alphabet - a claim that apparently cannot be made for the "Flower," upon which one can only trace some sub-set of all alphabets.

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andymonk
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Posted - 12/27/2007 :  08:20:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send andymonk a Private Message
More coincidences? http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/0904/0904_feature.html http://www.kiwipulse.com/ireland-giants-causeway/ http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/03/070328-saturn-hexagon.html
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 12/27/2007 :  08:44:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Dont forget snowflakes, pehaps you should bother learning why hexagonal shapes are common in nature as opposed to just assuming they support your WAY out there idea.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/27/2007 :  17:39:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by andymonk

More coincidences?
Not at all.

Hoagland saw what looked like a face on Mars, and thus thought it must be a face. Fundamentalists see what looks like purposeful design in biology, and thus think it is proof of God. You share this lack of imagination and curiosity by assuming that any natural hexagonal pattern is somehow linked to the "Flower," and guessing that people who don't agree with you will brush the "connections" off as mere coincidence.

And in doing so, you simply ignore all the naturally-occuring circles, squares, ovals, triangles and other shapes, along with all the human iconography that goes along with them.

But why, andymonk, did you fail to include a picture of a honeycomb, or snow (as BPS mentioned), or soap bubbles, or chicken wire, or benzene, or cork, or graphite or an orange stand? Might it be that too many examples would lead even you to the logical conclusion?

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andymonk
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Posted - 01/02/2008 :  16:47:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send andymonk a Private Message
More and more are getting on board,even freemasons. http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/sacred_geometry_the_flower_of_life.htm http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/geometria_sagrada/esp_geometria_sagrada_6.htm http://www.maybelogic.org/maybequarterly/13/1306FlowerOfLife.htm
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/02/2008 :  17:25:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Originally posted by Dave W.
Might it be that too many examples would lead even you to the logical conclusion?
I'm going to vote "no."


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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 01/02/2008 :  17:32:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
Originally posted by andymonk

More and more are getting on board,even freemasons. http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/sacred_geometry_the_flower_of_life.htm http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/geometria_sagrada/esp_geometria_sagrada_6.htm http://www.maybelogic.org/maybequarterly/13/1306FlowerOfLife.htm
But both the first and the last link is just to an article you wrote. And the middle link is the same junk, but with no author. I don't know how that suggests "more and more are getting on board" unless a previously-unconvinced split-personality has joined in your efforts to slavishly post the same drivel here time and again.

In which case, both of you should quit it.
Edited by - Cuneiformist on 01/02/2008 17:34:07
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