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marty
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
I'm still not sure what set things off, here, bngbuck. I honestly wasn't trying to be confrontational. I did sincerely wish to see some examples so that we were speaking from the same frame of reference before entering in the discussion. I found your reply to be a bit off-setting.
Seriously. I don't know what your PhD is in, or what you study, but you can see how this set up can lead to disaster, no? That is, if I give you my opinion on something X, when you have in mind something Y, but we never clarify whether we're talking about X or Y, my opinion is wrong, but you'll never know because we haven't established more concretely what we're talking about!!
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It is because you have misunderstood what was asked from the beginning and despite continual explanation you are frustrated that you still do not understand what was asked.
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 21:30:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marty
It is because you have misunderstood what was asked from the beginning and despite continual explanation you are frustrated that you still do not understand what was asked. |
Great. Then maybe you can explain it to us. Because I have no idea what the UFO "perception phenomenon" entails if bngbuck has no desire to talk about what it is people might be seeing.
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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marty
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 21:37:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Originally posted by marty
It is because you have misunderstood what was asked from the beginning and despite continual explanation you are frustrated that you still do not understand what was asked. |
Great. Then maybe you can explain it to us. Because I have no idea what the UFO "perception phenomenon" entails if bngbuck has no desire to talk about what it is people might be seeing.
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What is going on with your aggressive childish avatar?
The motion displayed is nothing less than a magicians tool used to distracted from a fakery taking place. In your case it it the attempted appearance of thought.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 21:46:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marty
What is going on with your aggressive childish avatar?
The motion displayed is nothing less than a magicians tool used to distracted from a fakery taking place. In your case it it the attempted appearance of thought. |
Ok, so you have no idea either, you just like trolling. Got it.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Ricky
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marty
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 21:57:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
Originally posted by marty
Originally posted by H. Humbert
Originally posted by marty
It is because you have misunderstood what was asked from the beginning and despite continual explanation you are frustrated that you still do not understand what was asked. |
Great. Then maybe you can explain it to us. Because I have no idea what the UFO "perception phenomenon" entails if bngbuck has no desire to talk about what it is people might be seeing.
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What is going on with your aggressive childish avatar?
The motion displayed is nothing less than a magicians tool used to distracted from a fakery taking place. In your case it it the attempted appearance of thought.
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Why do you criticize HH for not understanding, then when he asks you to explain you come up with something completely irrelevant?
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It is the second time he has asked, and the questions has been answered multiple times; once by you. He is either a moron or he is playing a game. I believe he thinks he is playing a game and is a moron.
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marty
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 22:01:31 [Permalink]
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Hubert's avatar is a moron trying to bang a square block into a round hole!
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 22:34:47 [Permalink]
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marty, we get it: You don't like critical thinking. Please consider that critical thinking may not like you, as well, and find something productive to do.
Is it just me, or has marty only contributed sniping attacks to these fora? I cannot think of a single instance in which he has contributed an idea. If I'm wrong, can anyone correct this impression? If I'm right, he should harden his heart and resign himself to being treated as a troll.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 22:57:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marty
It is the second time he has asked... |
When was the first time?
| ...and the questions has been answered multiple times; once by you. |
Not in any coherent fashion. The closest you came was when you posted "He is asking what is your opinion of the group think associated with unexplained sightings." But what group think? Not a single example has been provided. Does he mean the fact that large groups of people can often be mystified by aerial phenomena? Or is he wondering why they all resort to the same unproven conjectures when faced with such phenomena? What the hell are we supposed to even be addressing here, and what biases do you think have been exhibited?
| He is either a moron or he is playing a game. I believe he thinks he is playing a game and is a moron. |
My opinion of you isn't very high either. You've shown zero ability to address even the most basic questions posed to you, and instead substitute simple-minded insults for critical thinking. It's excusable to be arrogant if you can back it up, only you never do. Your substanceless posts are quite pathetic and even more telling. You are a troll with nary a thought rumbling about in your thick skull, and it is clear that your limited intellect has made you bitter toward anyone smarter than yourself, which must be quite a sizable fraction of all the humans who have ever lived.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 08/07/2007 : 23:02:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Is it just me, or has marty only contributed sniping attacks to these fora? I cannot think of a single instance in which he has contributed an idea. |
Me either.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 08/08/2007 : 05:15:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marty
He is asking what is your opinion of the group think associated with unexplained sightings.
Please read, do not cherry pick out what you think associates with a plausible reasoning behind the insults. |
Right. And I wanted him to provide and example or two of what he was talking about-- not as a challenge, but so that I was sure that we were both talking about the same thing.
This wasn't a challenge. I just wanted an example-- any example-- so I could give a more informed opinion! And yet bngbuck, for all his "research" in writing his book, couldn't say something like "check such-and-such newspaper on Date X for and example of what I'm talking about." Rather, he told me to spend a few hours (!) searching Google until such an example presented itself (how I would know-- or more importantly, how he would know-- that the example I'd chosen met all of his criteria is unclear). Does that make sense? |
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 08/08/2007 : 05:20:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marty
It is because you have misunderstood what was asked from the beginning and despite continual explanation you are frustrated that you still do not understand what was asked. |
I seriously doubt it. Bangbuck wanted the opinion of the participants of these SFN forums on a phenomenon x. This phenomenon is a very specific subset of a much larger phenomenon X. To avoid offering an opinion on something that is X but not x (because X is made up of things that are x and not-x), I asked if he could provide some examples. He refused, and instead told me to find them myself. If I have misunderstood, then please explain. |
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Boron10
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Posted - 08/08/2007 : 08:09:45 [Permalink]
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marty, it is inappropriate to edit a post after somebody has replied to it, unless you explain what your edit was.
Here is the post I am talking aboutPosted - 08/07/2007 : 20:46:22
Edited by - marty on 08/08/2007 07:52:29 |
There have been 16 posts, growing into another page, following this referenced post.
It makes you seem dishonest, as if you're trying to change something after the fact.
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Posted - 08/08/2007 : 10:29:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marty
My reading of the conversation is bngbuck explaining over and over that the responses were not what he was talking about with vitriol spit back into his face(a couple of posters excluded). |
That's bizarre. bngbuck offered no explanation whatsoever that the responses weren't what he was looking for until page three, many posts after he'd offered the obnoxious "Google it" answer to On fire for Christ. The "vitriol" began with GeeMack pointing out that bngbuck was treating the folks here with "disdain and contempt."| Is this how you moderate a forum? Defend know entities against all invaders? |
That's even more bizarre, as it implies that some moderator here has been moderating unfairly, but I see no such acts whatsoever.| Do you see yourself as a white blood cell? |
That'd be funny if its premise were correct. Speaking of incorrect premises, marty, are you ever going to acknowledge your hypocrisy?| The funny thing is he was gauging your reactions to a question of opinion. Dave, you and a few others do not get it and still after rereading the posts (if you read them in the first place) will not get it. |
Actually, I got it just fine. And I explained to bngbuck why I think he's going to continue to be misinterpreted. I guess you didn't get it.| He at no point made an assertion and was continually attacked for claiming an assertion without evidence. |
His question assumes that there really are a "small but significant number of highly documented sightings of UFO aerial phenomena reported by large groups of ordinary people..." (etc).
And then later on, bngbuck made the claim quite clearly: "There have been numerous cases where large numbers of observers at widely disparate locations described remarkably similar phenomena." How, marty, is that not an assertion of fact?
I explained that that's the interesting part of this for most people here, because the answer to his question is boring and obvious.| Try reading before you interject with your infectious form of asinine and protagonistic moderation. |
Again, the bizarre insistence that there is moderation going on here.
Please also note my rejection of your invitation to engage in name-calling, marty.
Let's see, you also wrote:| Will you admit you are a lier? Or did you forget what you had just posted? |
Oh, yes, I did forget that I used the word "question" with a completely different referent from the post you quoted, that I referred to as having a "substantive portion." You had asked where, in that post, I had any "substantive questions." I then asked you questions which you have failed to answer.| The text is there for all to see. |
Yes, it is.| You used the word question. |
Yes, I did.| Is lying another form of moderation? |
I see that you're going to assume that I lied, rather than wait for me to answer your question.| Your simple tactics may work for the simple minded, but I think the majority that visit see what you are. |
What tactics would those be, marty? What is it that you think I am?
You also wrote:| You are still attacking something that has never been there, and has been stated several times is not there. |
Except it is right here:| There have been numerous cases where large numbers of observers at widely disparate locations described remarkably similar phenomena. |
So the fact that it is there has got to be embarrassing for someone who has said:Have you read the posts in this thread?
It looks as if you have not. |
What's that word again, marty? |
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Why not question something for a change?
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filthy
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Dang, I just won another bet with myself. I'm on a roll! 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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