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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 08/19/2007 :  18:04:41  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is my fifth parody of a Chick Tract.

The original was "In the Beginning." It was a fairly standard fare for Chick, using lies and even a reference to Kent Hovind to show how wrong modern science is in challenging Young Earth Creationism. Please read the original, before reading my version.

In no way does my parody reflect the thinking of Jack Chick, or of Chick Publications! Please do not confuse my hatchet-job with a real Chick Tract hatchet job! It's all my fault!



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Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.

Edited by - HalfMooner on 08/19/2007 22:32:42

Valiant Dancer
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USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2007 :  18:47:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are Chick's Copyright lawyers gonna forget about the "parody" exception to Copyright law and threaten us for this one?

They've done it before to other boards.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2007 :  19:11:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I really liked how you replaced the Bible with Wikipedia... that is until I realized that maybe it hits a little too close to home.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard

USA
3739 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2007 :  21:03:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah... Wikipedia is a nice place to begin your research, but then if you're a good critical thinker you have to go and actually check the sources they cite, and compare with other independent sources. Can't leave these sort of important details out in an intro to critical thinking.

Anyway, I'm impressed with the amount of work you put into the re-writing here, Half.

"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 08/19/2007 :  22:13:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The altered contents of this strip might be better considered a "pre-introduction" to critical thinking, or maybe the Classics Illustrated version of the Cliff Notes for the outline of such an introduction's summary page.

As I worked on it, I would write my brief proposed text for each dialog balloon in Notepad. This usually turned out to be more than twice as much text as I could actually fit in. Since Wiki articles are written under pressure to supply sources, I hope anyone reading them will stumble onto these references.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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dglas
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Canada
397 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2007 :  23:01:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dglas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sure. Now rewrite it without the unnecessary expletives.

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- dglas (In the hell of 1000 unresolved subplots...)
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The Presupposition of Intrinsic Evil
+ A Self-Justificatory Framework
= The "Heart of Darkness"
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2007 :  23:26:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by dglas

Sure. Now rewrite it without the unnecessary expletives.
The expletives aren't unnecessary at all. They serve a dedicated purpose. And really, if you don't like the way something is written, go make your own.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2007 :  23:42:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by dglas

Sure. Now rewrite it without the unnecessary expletives.
I feel that I either used too many, or too few expletives. It was neither consistently foul-languaged, nor consistently clean. I count just three (possible) cuss words. "Shit," "bullshit," and "asses" ain't much. Kinda low-grade cuss words, those.

I probably should have used a few more "dirty" words.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard

USA
3739 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2007 :  07:05:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the dirty words serve the purpose of mocking the whole Chick Tract format of sharing opinions and information. Even if I am an atheist and critical thinker, I would not take this tract seriously or even positively if it were handed to me in seriousness by another freethinker. And I certainly do not respect the actions of the minority of atheists who seriously produce such literature and hand it out in the hopes of converting religious people.

My interpretation of the use of expletives is that the very action of handing someone such a tract of any kind, which promotes narrow-minded self-righteousness, reduces complex philosophical ideas to silliness, and makes those who disagree with you look like bafoons, is rude to begin with. By putting swear words in this parody, Mooner has emphasized the rude and condescending nature of the original tract.

Edited to add: However, I don't think it needs more swear words. Then I think you're just hitting us over the head with a hammer. The three you have right now are perfect in my opinion.


"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong

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Edited by - marfknox on 08/20/2007 07:07:22
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Yojimbo99
New Member

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  10:13:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Yojimbo99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The satan on page 14(or is it pannel 14 /shrug) looks somehow familar, if I could only place him.



Nice parody sir, but I have to confess, that I might swear a bit too much; as I had to re-read it to even notice the 'naughty words'.

It's not so much wanting to die, but controlling that moment, choosing your own way. - GG Allin
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/21/2007 :  10:30:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fifth parody? Where's the others? I skimmed around in "Moonscape News" (you know, that little section of the forum that's dedicated just to YOU.......!!!) but I didn't find anything.

Did I just not skim hard enough?

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Boron10
Religion Moderator

USA
1266 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  10:51:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Boron10 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

Fifth parody? Where's the others? I skimmed around in "Moonscape News" (you know, that little section of the forum that's dedicated just to YOU.......!!!) but I didn't find anything.

Did I just not skim hard enough?
Try including archived topics.
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leoofno
Skeptic Friend

USA
346 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  12:27:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send leoofno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Yojimbo99

The satan on page 14(or is it pannel 14 /shrug) looks somehow familar, if I could only place him.



Nice parody sir, but I have to confess, that I might swear a bit too much; as I had to re-read it to even notice the 'naughty words'.


Satan has an Austrailian accent! Who knew?

(I bet he's planning to stiff policy holders after Armageddon.)

"If you're not terrified, you're not paying attention." Eric Alterman
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  19:58:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
At least Chick's/my Satan didn't try to sell life insurance to Eve.

My whole archived Moonscape collection can be found via this link.



Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 08/21/2007 :  20:58:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

At least Chick's/my Satan didn't try to sell life insurance to Eve.

My whole archived Moonscape collection can be found via this link.





But but but.......

The little green bastard hawks car insurance.

That's gotta be a bit funnier.

Genesis 1:96.2 And Lo the Lord didst bring forth the well worn Siva Edwardian and didst he then name it "Bessie". And Lo the Whovians were pleased.

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Yojimbo99
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USA
33 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2007 :  21:27:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Yojimbo99 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I really wish I knew( ok was talented enough but lets not split hairs here) how to photshop or something, for I am of the opinion that the gecko could use a set of Billy Graham The Times style horns.

It's not so much wanting to die, but controlling that moment, choosing your own way. - GG Allin
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