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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  11:32:44  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why does everyone think about having embedded videos?


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell

Dave W.
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  12:53:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think about it very often.

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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  13:08:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't think about it very often.


Now that you have thought about it, what do you think?


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  13:15:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What is an 'embedded vidio?' If I knew anything about such, I might have given them some thought at one time or another.




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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  13:58:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

What is an 'embedded vidio?' If I knew anything about such, I might have given them some thought at one time or another.






Being able to place a video in your post instead of just a link to the video in your post.

One would still have to choose to press play of course. Think of it in the way you place pictures in your posts.


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Siberia
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  14:28:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I'd rather they weren't; my connection is slow and I avoid videos as much as possible - to have them in a post would be a big turn off.

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- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  14:44:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Now that you have thought about it, what do you think?
You missed the joke.

Anyway, embedded video might be nice, but there are lots of higher-priority code changes to be made, first.

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filthy
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  15:12:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Originally posted by filthy

What is an 'embedded vidio?' If I knew anything about such, I might have given them some thought at one time or another.






Being able to place a video in your post instead of just a link to the video in your post.

One would still have to choose to press play of course. Think of it in the way you place pictures in your posts.


Ah, I see. Ok, I'm agreeing with Siberia and for the same reasons.
Well, I'd rather they weren't; my connection is slow and I avoid videos as much as possible - to have them in a post would be a big turn off.
They're a nuisance if you're not going to open them anyway and the cursor won't scroll through them, on my box at least.




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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  15:48:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For those who are unfamiliar with 'em, this page has an embedded video.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  17:23:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, doing it like in that example should not be a bad thing. No real video runs unless you click the button, and You Tube provides the bandwidth. Makes it an option for the visitor, and free for the site.


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Edited by - HalfMooner on 08/26/2007 17:25:17
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  19:26:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, the initial image sucks up as much of the viewer's bandwidth as any image of the same size. Perhaps a little more.

If, due to a low-badnwidth connection, they're not going to play the video, then those readers get nothing but an often-uninformative image with a big triangle on it. I can certainly see how that'd be annoying.

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 08/27/2007 :  06:44:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Having no sooner said that I don't open vidios, I opened one over there at Randi's place. Friends, this one you've got to see!

Shadow Puppets




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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marfknox
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Posted - 08/27/2007 :  08:00:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like links to videos better.

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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 08/27/2007 :  09:16:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Well, the initial image sucks up as much of the viewer's bandwidth as any image of the same size. Perhaps a little more.

If, due to a low-badnwidth connection, they're not going to play the video, then those readers get nothing but an often-uninformative image with a big triangle on it. I can certainly see how that'd be annoying.

Well, if it doesn't autoplay, then I guess I'm cool with it. As long as they don't autoplay.

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JohnOAS
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Australia
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Posted - 08/29/2007 :  07:50:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit JohnOAS's Homepage Send JohnOAS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by marfknox

I like links to videos better.

Agreed.

If I'm going to be bothered to watch a video, doing so in a new tab/window would be my preferred option anyway. For this, a link is better, Youtube embedded links actually make that more difficult.

I wouldn't vote against it, it's perfectly normal web fare, but I see no reason to push it up the priority list here, we really lose almost nothing by not having it.

I like SFN for all the fancy shmancy words and arguments. The pics are fine, and useful on occasion, but not what I come here for.

Embedded movies? Meh.

John's just this guy, you know.
Edited by - JohnOAS on 08/29/2007 07:51:26
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