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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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 Posted - 09/12/2007 : 09:33:54
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According to a story in USA Today,Most Americans believe the nation's founders wrote Christianity into the Constitution, and people are less likely to say freedom to worship covers religious groups they consider extreme, a poll out today finds.
The survey measuring attitudes toward freedom of religion, speech and the press found that 55% believe erroneously that the Constitution establishes a Christian nation. |
The full poll results are here.
It's a complicated issue, because it seems like many of the Founders had, at best, complicated and sometimes contradictory views on religion and Christianity. But given that most of the Founders also had less-progressive views of, say, woman, Africans, Asians, and Native Americans and thought that blood-letting was a great idea for common ailments, shouldn't we be hesitant to always strive for exactly was the Framers had in mind?
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 09/12/2007 : 14:44:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
But given that most of the Founders also had less-progressive views of, say, woman, Africans, Asians, and Native Americans and thought that blood-letting was a great idea for common ailments, shouldn't we be hesitant to always strive for exactly was the Framers had in mind?
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Apparently not if it conforms with what people believe is true... |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 09/12/2007 : 20:48:06 [Permalink]
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| If anyone wants to know what the founding fathers really thought, in their own words, there a lot of quotes here. |
Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.
You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 09/13/2007 : 05:37:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
I especially like Eddiegoobah's video song tribute to Hovind. It's been around a while, but is worth a listen.
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If the CSE is aware of that video, they'll get youtube to pull it off. |
by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 09/13/2007 : 06:07:22 [Permalink]
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I hate to say it, but I am not shocked by this poll. I wish I was. I just recently had to correct my own mother (an intelligent woman) that the US laws are not based on the 10 commandments. I run into people daily on foru.ms that believe, to the point of ignoring evidence, that this is a Christian country.
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You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley |
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Original_Intent
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 09/14/2007 : 14:06:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
According to a story in USA Today,Most Americans believe the nation's founders wrote Christianity into the Constitution, and people are less likely to say freedom to worship covers religious groups they consider extreme, a poll out today finds.
The survey measuring attitudes toward freedom of religion, speech and the press found that 55% believe erroneously that the Constitution establishes a Christian nation. |
The full poll results are here.
It's a complicated issue, because it seems like many of the Founders had, at best, complicated and sometimes contradictory views on religion and Christianity. But given that most of the Founders also had less-progressive views of, say, woman, Africans, Asians, and Native Americans and thought that blood-letting was a great idea for common ailments, shouldn't we be hesitant to always strive for exactly was the Framers had in mind?
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Man, I think we should strive for exactly what the framers had in mind. Be a lot less problems these days. They wanted you to be able to worship, or not worship, as you saw fit, without coercien from the state. A purely secular society that recognizes others rights, and does not discriminate aginst people with religious views.
The majority were Deists, with a few Atheists tossed in. Many were one protestant form of Christianity or another.
Sad, sad, sad poll. |
The Circus of Carnage... because you should be able to deal with politicians like you do pissant noobs. |
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Frightening Poll: Christian USA?
