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the_ignored
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 Posted - 11/21/2007 : 15:36:28
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Yep. In an "article" called Letter from a Future Prisoner she goes off on the most paranoid rant against Hillary Clinton, or anyone else, I've ever seen.
You have to read it and then you'll still disbelieve it. I'm writing to her in the hopes that I can find out that it's some kind of satire. I don't know, though.
Link to Ed Brayton's blog
He made a challenge to her that I think is worth repeating:
| Tell you what, Janet, I'll make you a bet. If Hillary Clinton does get elected and you're not thrown in prison for being a Christian, you agree never to write or speak again; if you are thrown in jail, I'll agree to the same. Deal? |
Anyway, what follows is the text of my letter:
From: EDIT: Name removed because I'm linking this post to elsewhere on the net
To: Janet Folger
Forgive my bluntness, but as I said: Are you serious? Christians have an unbelievable amount of political power over there. Christians are represented by many groups: Dobson's FoF and AFA, the Council for National Policy, many people in your gov't of professing christian faith, Bush's Faith Based Initiatives, the countless radio and TV programs that cater to your religion, tax-exempt status for churches, etc. etc.
I might add that on those TV and radio shows the "liberals" are blasted regularly, with no resulting persecution from what they say. You people do have Freedom of Speech as I recall. It's only when you start calling groups of people names like "abominations" and spread conspiracy theories about "homosexual agendas" etc, stuff that can and does incite unjustified hatred against groups of people that there may be an issue. Even so, I've yet to hear of any jail time going on even in the cases that have gone against your religion.
Even the ACLU has stood up for christians in cases when their rights have been stepped on. They even represented Rush Limbaugh once, if I'm not mistaken.
You get the idea. In contrast, in Germany when they went after the Jews, the people had been taught to hate Jews for centuries before Hitler came along, stripped them of their rights and put them in the gas chambers. An example of the kind of demonization that they faced can be found in a book called "On the Jews and Their Lies" by Martin Luther.
Anyhow, what makes your letter so unbelievable is that you ignore all the examples of political power that christians have in your country and you act like the minor annoyances you face is real persecution.
In short, there are too many people, too many groups, too many people in power in the States for some group to rise up against them. I'd remind you again of the ACLU's defending christians in several occasions.
There also has not been near enough time for christians to have been villified enough that people in general look down on them. If anything, it's the opposite. Remember George Bush's father saying that atheists shouldn't really be considered citizens of the States since since the nation's motto has "under God" in it? (never mind that God wasn't put in the motto until the 1950's).
In summation, if your letter is satire, it's brilliant; if it's not, hoo boy.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
Edited by - the_ignored on 11/22/2007 02:28:24
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2007 : 16:44:15 [Permalink]
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Perfect letter! I hope she replies to you.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 11/21/2007 : 17:24:25 [Permalink]
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I hate to put forth a discouraging word, but this gal's for real. A quick glance at the rest of the site will confirm that. The problem here is that there are too many who believe the same way and will swallow such crap without even a sip of water to wash it down.
I'll be interested in reading her reply, although I doubt if there will be one.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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bngbuck
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Posted - 11/21/2007 : 17:29:44 [Permalink]
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Ignored.....
I may be stone-dumb, but I don't see any satire here! The folks she is talking to are too neurologically challenged to recognize or understand a satire if they saw one! And the WorldNetDaily reads like one of those rolly holer tracts that primly dressed stiff-necks ring your doorbell and try to hand to you!
| Janet L. Folger is president of Faith2Action: turning people of faith into people of action to WIN the cultural war TOGETHER for life, liberty and the family. Author of "The Criminalization of Christianity," she hosts a daily radio program from 2-3 p.m. Eastern and a daily radio commentary heard in 100 markets and at www.f2a.org |
and from www.skepticank.org/janut.htm| "Janet is an example of what I like to think of as an issue entrepreneur," said Ralph Reed, former executive director of the Christian Coalition. "Some entrepreneurs try to figure out what the new hot stocks are. Janet is an ideological entrepreneur, someone who tries to pick the hot new issues." |
Sounds like she is a dead-serious fundamentalist maniac with a really strong political bent.
Apparently, the Rabid Religious Right is more concerned about Hillary than Obama or Edwards. I think they may be wrong. Hillary is stumbling around rather badly in these early days of the '08 campaign.
I'm ready to give 50/50 odds that Gore is still going to step on the carousel post-caucus and run off with the ring!
"If you just want something to happen badly enough, it will!"
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 11/22/2007 : 02:12:27 [Permalink]
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This gal's at least as much of a fascist as is Coulter. Little chance her mind will be changed, but great letter, Ig!
I've been betting on Gore all along. It's a classic situation for a draft movement. None of the Demo candidates are especially inspiring at this date. Gore's built up some powerful mojo with his film and his Nobel. Being outside of DC for a few years helps, too.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
| Edited by - HalfMooner on 11/22/2007 02:15:19 |
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Yep, another letter to a delusional fundie!
