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Archereon
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New Zealand
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 Posted - 12/11/2007 : 02:34:33
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why do they do it Isn't it violating a commandment about false witness or something?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 12/11/2007 : 03:49:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Archereon
why do they do it Isn't it violating a commandment about false witness or something?
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Rather sad, isn't it. If so many of these people weren't so downright vicious, you could almost feel a little sorry for them. Almost....
What it is, all of their "science" must agree with their book of myths & ledgends, making it impossible to actually do genuine science. Therefore they can only twist & spin the words & works of those who actually do serious scientific studies. And thus, they have raised quote-mining to the level of an art form. As for the honesty, or the lack thereof of it, they don't care. To them, they are courageously defending God's word and the means employed are irrelevent.
That's a lot easier and less expensive than actually setting up laboratories and working in the field. Also less risky; if they did honest science, The Book might soon become little more than an oddity found in a library, and of interest to few other than those who study folklore.
Then there is the financial aspect of it. Well-primed believers can be milked like a dairy herd, as Ken Ham nicely demonstrates with his Creation Museum silliness, which was entirely funded with the donations of the deluded to the tune of 27 mil, and every dime it brings in to the AiG coffers from those same deluded believers is tax exempt. What a honey of a deal!
Y'know, if there actually were a God, I suspect that by now he/she/it would be pretty, damned pissed.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 06:09:32 [Permalink]
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Lying, abuse, even killing is allowed -- nay, commanded -- by God as he is interpreted by such pious liars.
It takes a truly moral person with high spiritual values to be such a low-life.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 08:14:32 [Permalink]
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From that page:After reading these words from evolutionists, would you say the evidence points more towards spontaneous generation and evolution or divine creation? Of course, the author hasn't presented any evidence, just a bunch of mined quotes. But that stuff is old hat.
Slightly more interesting is the author's take on how atheism violates scientific laws:The laws of science falsify the notion that this physical, living world came to be through natural means. These laws provide very credible evidence for the possible existence of a supernatural being. Atheism violates these basic laws of science. Atheism requires not only a tremendous amount of faith but also a belief in miracles. And not only miracles but natural miracles, an oxymoron. Both naturalism and supernaturalism require faith and which one you place your faith in is one of the two most important choices you will ever make. But it's still pretty old, because it boils down to the ancient "if you can't explain it, that means you must believe it just 'poofed' into existence" lie.
And the "Note to Mockers" is nothing more than a bunch of Bible quotes. Lazy, lazy. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 09:18:41 [Permalink]
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The ICR sells a book of mined quotes with directions on how to use them, written by Henry Morris:
That Their Words May Be Used Against Them
| Compiled from over 50 years of study by Dr. Henry M. Morris, acknowledged to be the father of modern creationism. *Nearly 3,000 quotes from evolutionists divided into 15 chapters and 45 sections. |
They are shameless liars for Christ.
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Archereon
New Member
New Zealand
32 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2007 : 16:47:45 [Permalink]
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| Have you ever noticed just how much merchandise is for sale at the creation science type sites? |
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 17:09:05 [Permalink]
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| Oh yeah, they love their misquotes |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 18:58:51 [Permalink]
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One of their bigger lies is calling themselves 'scientists'; they are not. All that their degrees prove is that they did some science in university in order to get the degree, but now that they restrict themselves to supernatural explanations they are no longer doing science and have abrogated any right to be called scientists.
Bastards. |
Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.
You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2007 : 02:40:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by The Rat
One of their bigger lies is calling themselves 'scientists'; they are not. All that their degrees prove is that they did some science in university in order to get the degree, but now that they restrict themselves to supernatural explanations they are no longer doing science and have abrogated any right to be called scientists.
Bastards.
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Indeed, and some have been subsidized by even fouler scumbags than themselves.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Halcyon Dayz
New Member
Netherlands
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 Posted - 12/13/2007 : 03:11:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Originally posted by The Rat
One of their bigger lies is calling themselves 'scientists'; they are not. All that their degrees prove is that they did some science in university in order to get the degree, but now that they restrict themselves to supernatural explanations they are no longer doing science and have abrogated any right to be called scientists.
Bastards.
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Indeed, and some have been subsidized by even fouler scumbags than themselves.
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Linkie no good. Jonathan Wells (intelligent design advocate)
Has there ever been an anti-evolutionist who wasn't motivated by ideology?
This particular Moonie deserves bonus points for being a contributor to mass-murder as well.
AIDS reappraisal my ass. |
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. -- Don Marquis
"The universe is a strange, practically incomprehensible place. But that is how things are, and no amount of wishing that things are really the way we perceive them will change that." - The Black Cat |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2007 : 04:19:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Halcyon Dayz
Originally posted by filthy
Originally posted by The Rat
One of their bigger lies is calling themselves 'scientists'; they are not. All that their degrees prove is that they did some science in university in order to get the degree, but now that they restrict themselves to supernatural explanations they are no longer doing science and have abrogated any right to be called scientists.
Bastards.
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Indeed, and some have been subsidized by even fouler scumbags than themselves.
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Linkie no good. Jonathan Wells (intelligent design advocate)
Has there ever been an anti-evolutionist who wasn't motivated by ideology?
This particular Moonie deserves bonus points for being a contributor to mass-murder as well.
AIDS reappraisal my ass.
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Hmph. Linkie works for me, but then, my idiot box is still recovering from a virus so whoddahell knows what it'll puke out? | Has there ever been an anti-evolutionist who wasn't motivated by ideology? |
No, there has not. Every one of them has only religion to inspire their research and that, by it's very nature, dictates that anything which contradicts it's "sacred word" must be denied. It's amusing, really, the torturous efforts to replace reality with myth.
The ICR sells a book of mined quotes with directions on how to use them, written by Henry Morris:
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Henry Morris was a vile, old man who has finally and at last done the world a favor by becoming a dead, old man. His corpse is not yet cooled sufficiently to qualify for my signature, but then, he is not really interesting enough to achieve that honor anyway.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 12/13/2007 : 04:52:06 [Permalink]
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Not even the freakin' Pope is immune!
The Pope condemns the climate change prophets of doom
By SIMON CALDWELL Last updated at 14:48pm on 12th December 2007
“Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology.The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics suggested that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering.
The German-born Pontiff said that while some concerns may be valid it was vital that the international community based its policies on science rather than the dogma of the environmentalist movement.
His remarks will be made in his annual message for World Peace Day on January 1, but they were released as delegates from all over the world convened on the Indonesian holiday island of Bali for UN climate change talks.
The 80-year-old Pope said the world needed to care for the environment but not to the point where the welfare of animals and plants was given a greater priority than that of mankind. . . . ”
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Doesn't this pathetic dipshit realize that plants & animals are crucial to our own survival?
To see it in context, go here. Linkie -- ya pays yer money, ya takes yer chances.
I thought that, apart from the usual & expected, Catholic preachings, his thoughts on the enviornment and our place in it were pretty reasonable. After all, unlike the Discovery Sanitorium Institute, he does support the science.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Halcyon Dayz
New Member
Netherlands
27 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2007 : 06:22:36 [Permalink]
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The idea of the pope warning other people not to base their policies on dogma is actually quite funny. |
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. -- Don Marquis
"The universe is a strange, practically incomprehensible place. But that is how things are, and no amount of wishing that things are really the way we perceive them will change that." - The Black Cat |
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moakley
SFN Regular
USA
1888 Posts |
Posted - 12/14/2007 : 19:20:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Not even the freakin' Pope is immune!
The Pope condemns the climate change prophets of doom
By SIMON CALDWELL Last updated at 14:48pm on 12th December 2007
“Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology.The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics suggested that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering.
The German-born Pontiff said that while some concerns may be valid it was vital that the international community based its policies on science rather than the dogma of the environmentalist movement.
His remarks will be made in his annual message for World Peace Day on January 1, but they were released as delegates from all over the world convened on the Indonesian holiday island of Bali for UN climate change talks.
The 80-year-old Pope said the world needed to care for the environment but not to the point where the welfare of animals and plants was given a greater priority than that of mankind. . . . ”
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Doesn't this pathetic dipshit realize that plants & animals are crucial to our own survival?
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Looks like the popes train of thought stopped short of final destination. Dementia must be setting in. |
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Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous |
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Got to love quotemining
