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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 12/12/2007 : 04:02:03
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This time, it's from our friend, scientific mentor, and spirtual guide; Ken Ham. Why in America is Christ being taken out of Christmas? If you told the average American 50 years ago that “in the 21st century, America will take Christ out of Christmas and make it nothing but a pagan holiday,” I'm sure most would have responded with something like, “No—not here—that would never happen.” But it is happening.
There are more Christian resources available in the U.S. today than at any time in its history—yet for all of that, America is becoming less and less Christian every day.At this Christmas time, I think it's important to ponder where America is as a culture and try to understand why this is happening. There are more Christian resources available in the U.S. today than at any time in its history—yet for all of that, America is becoming less and less Christian every day. The battle over “Christ” in Christmas is a sad example of this.
Abortion, gay marriage, the Ten Commandments being ripped out of public places, taking “Christ” out of Christmas—all of these issues are in reality symptoms of a much greater battle.
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He continues in this vein for a paragraph, then: | The real reason many in this culture want Christ out of Christmas is because they don't want to believe and obey the Word. This problem began in Genesis 3 when Adam and Eve rejected God's Word and wanted to decide truth for themselves. Ever since the Garden, this has been man's problem. Man wants to reject the Word. |
And then he gets down to brass tacks (you know what them tacks are, don't you?): Answers in Genesis and the Creation Museum are on the cutting edge of this battle over “Christ” in Christmas, because we're at the forefront of the battle in this age over the authority of the Word of God in the culture. And a battle it is! It's one we can't fight alone, and I am asking you to prayerfully consider helping Answers in Genesis with a Christmas gift—to “take back Christmas” for Christ!
Remember, if the history in Genesis concerning our origins is not true, the birth of Jesus becomes insignificant. You see, if there never was a first Adam, there's no need for a last Adam! The Christmas account, robbed of its context and historical foundation, becomes meaningless and easily forgotten.
That's why the final stop on the Creation Museum tour is the powerful Last Adam Theater. When our museum guests reach this point, they have seen videos and exhibits bringing to life the miracle of Creation by God's own hand. They've seen the terrible consequences of the Corruption, as the first Adam chose to disobey God.
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And finally, he shuts it off with the expected: Throughout the Christmas season, some of our Answers . . . with Ken Ham radio programs will present Christ's birth in the full context of God's plan. I'll explain how the true foundation of Christmas goes all the way back to Genesis. Our award-winning website, our home-school curriculum, Answers magazine, and all the staff at the Creation Museum will reinforce this message. And you can help!
Arm yourself. Visit our website to read articles and get resources that will help you talk about Christmas in a meaningful, engaging way with your family and friends. And if you haven't yet paid a visit to the Creation Museum, the holidays would be a good time. We have planned special Christmas programs [PDF].
Pray for Answers in Genesis. These are busy times of ministry for all of us, and I have to tell you some da
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 04:20:51 [Permalink]
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Given that Christmas is a federally acknowledged holiday in the USA, I can only assume that non-Christians are invited to celebrate a secular version of it. After all, the US government is not allowed to favor one religion over others. So if fundies want anyone to blame for the secularization of Christmas, they have only to look at the US government and the Christians who have pushed for Christmas to be a public affair.
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"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
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the_ignored
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 05:09:19 [Permalink]
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Those fools need to be reminded of the real reason for the season.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
2998 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2007 : 05:16:33 [Permalink]
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Yeah and if you said 50 years ago that blacks and whites would no longer be separated, I'm sure most would have responded with something like, “No—not here—that would never happen.”
I'm glad American culture is evolving.
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by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 05:59:07 [Permalink]
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War on christmas makes profit for religious right groups
a more arrogant take
some history showing that early american christians opposed christmas celebrations
History records that when the Puritans came to power in England, Parliament, in June,1647, passed legislation abolishing Christmas and other holidays. In this legislation, they wrote the following: "For as much as the feast of the nativity of Christ, Easter, and other festivals, commonly called holy days, have been here-to-fore superstitiously used and observed; be it ordained that the said feasts, and all other festivals, commonly called holy days, be no longer observed as festivals."
The American Puritan movement took an even stronger stand against these pagan holidays. Samuel Miller, a Puritan and professor of history and church government at Princeton Seminary, stated in 1896 in his book, why Presbyterians reject the holy days of Christmas and Easter. He stated that "the Scriptures were the only infallible rule of faith and practice, and that no rite or ceremony ought to have a place in the public worship of Yahweh, which is not warranted in Scripture. Not only does the celebration of non-biblical holidays lack a scriptural foundation, but the scriptures positively discount it." [Miller, pgs. 65,74]
Presbyterians were not the only ones who maintained a strong stand against Christmas, as there were many other Christians who held to similar convictions. As a matter of fact, the famous preacher, Charles Spurgeon, stated in a sermon given on Christmas Eve, December 24th, 1871, the following:
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Here we go again: dump Christ from Xmas!
