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the_ignored
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  00:57:00  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know, this was written way back in the 1850's but still, I think this should be interesting to see.

I won't post any of the actual details, because it's a long read, but I will post the intro. This is from a freethinkers site. He's just dug this up.

In 1855, the following booklet was published for presentation to children at Catholic churches in Ireland and England. As you'll see, it had the support and approval of the Catholic Church, which saw nothing wrong with what it said or how it was presented. For more information on the author, John W. Furniss, click here.

I should say, this stuff is bad. Dante's Inferno looks like Monty Python compared to this.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

HalfMooner
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  01:34:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What an abusive, psychotic, sadistic priest to write such frightening lies for children. And what an abusive, psychotic and sadistic Church to promote these horrors.




Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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the_ignored
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  02:18:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah. That doesn't even take into account the kinds of shenanigans that the church elders were doing over the centuries, worse than anything any kid could have done.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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leoofno
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USA
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  08:24:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send leoofno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"The blood is boiling in the scalded veins of that boy. The brain is boiling and bubbling in his head. The marrow is boiling in his bones! Ask him, put the question to him, why is he thus tormented? His answer is, that when he was alive, his blood boiled to do very wicked things, and he did them, and it was for that he went to dancing-houses, public-houses, and theatres."

Dang! And I just saw The Golden Compass, too. I'm so screwed!

"If you're not terrified, you're not paying attention." Eric Alterman
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filthy
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  12:28:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by leoofno

"The blood is boiling in the scalded veins of that boy. The brain is boiling and bubbling in his head. The marrow is boiling in his bones! Ask him, put the question to him, why is he thus tormented? His answer is, that when he was alive, his blood boiled to do very wicked things, and he did them, and it was for that he went to dancing-houses, public-houses, and theatres."

Dang! And I just saw The Golden Compass, too. I'm so screwed!
Don't feel alone, I just finished the third book of the trilogy.

But it was old & evil shit when Furniss wrote it. All he did was jazz it up a bit.

From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

The Bible can be a truly foul piece of fiction, can it not?

"The Bible says it, I don't believe it, and that the end of it!"






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bngbuck
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  15:43:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mooner.....

What an abusive, psychotic, sadistic priest to write such frightening lies for children. And what an abusive, psychotic and sadistic Church to promote these horrors.
And what's wrong with folks that belong to and believe in and bring their kids up in this Church?

Give me a descriptive word!
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moakley
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USA
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Posted - 01/17/2008 :  19:03:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

I know, this was written way back in the 1850's but still, I think this should be interesting to see.

Didn't I see this in "Jesus Camp". Maybe not, but I do recall Pastor Becky Fischer saying some pretty frightful things. Possibly to the desired effect, the sobbing, wailing, and gnashing of little teeth.

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Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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