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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 01/23/2008 : 08:53:56
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Sigh, the sad part is some fools will actually believe this load
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"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 01/23/2008 : 09:04:07 [Permalink]
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| That would make a great April 1 joke from Nasa...they should have saved it for then. |
by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 01/23/2008 : 09:04:40 [Permalink]
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Anderson Cooper described the figure as "Sass-scotch." Dumbass.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 01/23/2008 : 09:17:58 [Permalink]
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| Send missionaries!!!! |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/23/2008 : 10:39:00 [Permalink]
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Simple. Just take another picture of the same location a second later and see if the running dude is still there. If not, then it's a Martian.
And why do radio and tv personalities trumpet their own ignorance? These dumbasses really don't know the difference between the legend of the Yeti and the legend of Sasquatch? |
-Chaloobi
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
2437 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2008 : 14:07:30 [Permalink]
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This is a paste of my post on Filthy's "Mars Image" topic
| A magnified version of the picture, posted on the internet, appears to some to show what resembles a human form among a crop of rocks. |
If you further magnify the image to the point of pixel discrimination (8X), you see probable evidence of image manipulation. The dark areas are pure black instead of very dark grey, and the demarcation between the much lighter background and the apparent "figure" image is black pixel next to light pixel; there should be some degree of shading at the demarcation line!
Oddly enough, some of the "shadow" areas in other parts of the picture show the same lack of grey shading, as does the "figure" section of the picture. Why did they mess around with the "shadows"?
If the "magnified" image of the original NASA photo was Photoshopped or otherwise manipulated, it was an extremely clumsy job. I am yet an amateur at this work, and I could do far better with just my clumsy skills.
What do you think Mooner? You have had much more image manipulation experience than I, do you think the "sasquatch" (man, that's a stretch) was inserted or pixel manipulated in Corel Draw or even Paint?
Does anyone know where to find the original NASA image? Dave?
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular
Australia
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Posted - 01/28/2008 : 05:02:16 [Permalink]
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I was referred to Emily Lakdawalla's blog post by the Bad Astronomer himself. Please follow the first link, there's lots of good stuff, including 3d imagery there.
The color photo of Bigfoot, in all its graininess, seems like a snapshot that Spirit took with the color camera on its mobile phone, catching a space alien visitor in motion as it dashed across the crater floor. It's easy to forget that color images from space are almost never taken all at once, in one snapshot. Nearly all cameras sent to space have monochrome detectors. To obtain color images, they have to take a photo of the same spot at least three times, each time with a different-color filter placed in front of the lens. In this case, Spirit took aim at that particular spot first with blue filters over both its left and right eyes. A minute later, having saved the first files to memory, it rotated the left-eye filter wheel to place an infrared filter over its left eye, and shot the scene again, and saved that image to memory. Then, about half a minute later, it was ready to shoot the scene a third time, with a green filter over its eye. Do you see what I'm getting at here? That weird little twisty piece of dark rock that looks like a humanoid figure stood perfectly still while the three images were taken, between 11:58:53 and 12:00:13 local time at Spirit's landing site. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 01/28/2008 : 07:48:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
This is a paste of my post on Filthy's "Mars Image" topic
| A magnified version of the picture, posted on the internet, appears to some to show what resembles a human form among a crop of rocks. |
If you further magnify the image to the point of pixel discrimination (8X), you see probable evidence of image manipulation. The dark areas are pure black instead of very dark grey, and the demarcation between the much lighter background and the apparent "figure" image is black pixel next to light pixel; there should be some degree of shading at the demarcation line!
Oddly enough, some of the "shadow" areas in other parts of the picture show the same lack of grey shading, as does the "figure" section of the picture. Why did they mess around with the "shadows"?
If the "magnified" image of the original NASA photo was Photoshopped or otherwise manipulated, it was an extremely clumsy job. I am yet an amateur at this work, and I could do far better with just my clumsy skills.
What do you think Mooner? You have had much more image manipulation experience than I, do you think the "sasquatch" (man, that's a stretch) was inserted or pixel manipulated in Corel Draw or even Paint?
Does anyone know where to find the original NASA image? Dave?
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I looked at the original, bngbuck, and saw nothing different between it and the widely-posed image. And nothing remarkable about either. It looks vaguely like a human figure. Pareidolia, that's all. Our brains are extremely sensitive to "recognizing" figures, especially human ones. It's doubtless a survival instinct.
My very first post at SFN was about what I dubbed the "Alberta Indian," a similar case of natural pareidolia, but a much more impressive one, I think. (Look for the images on the second page.)
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 01/28/2008 : 10:45:15 [Permalink]
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If you're looking at the original (over 5 MB download), the head of "bigfoot" is 864 pixels from the left edge, and 2,212 pixels down from the top (that's about 1/16th of the way across, and almost 2/3rds down).
Details of the original image (and a huge 133 MB version) can be found at JPL's Photojournal. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Bigfoot on Mars!
