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Lyzandra Daria
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 Posted - 01/24/2008 : 14:26:35
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al Qaeda and the war on terrorism article printed in the Global Researcher
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7718
"...Ironically, Al Qaeda --the "outside enemy of America" as well as the alleged architect of the 9/11 attacks-- is a creation of the CIA."
"...In 1979 the largest covert operation in the history of the CIA was launched in Afghanistan:
"With the active encouragement of the CIA and Pakistan's ISI, who wanted to turn the Afghan Jihad into a global war waged by all Muslim states against the Soviet Union, some 35,000 Muslim radicals from 40 Islamic countries joined Afghanistan's fight between 1982 and 1992. Tens of thousands more came to study in Pakistani madrasahs. Eventually, more than 100,000 foreign Muslim radicals were directly influenced by the Afghan jihad." (Ahmed Rashid, "The Taliban: Exporting Extremism", Foreign Affairs, November-December 1999).
This project of the US intelligence apparatus was conducted with the active support of Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), which was entrusted in channelling covert military aid to the Islamic brigades and financing, in liason with the CIA, the madrassahs and Mujahideen training camps."
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"...Predominant themes were that Islam was a complete socio-political ideology, that holy Islam was being violated by the atheistic Soviet troops, and that the Islamic people of Afghanistan should reassert their independence by overthrowing the leftist Afghan regime propped up by Moscow. (Dilip Hiro, Fallout from the Afghan Jihad, Inter Press Services, 21 November 1995.)"
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"...The CIA sponsored Narcotics Trade
The history of the drug trade in Central Asia is intimately related to the CIA's covert operations. Prior to the Soviet-Afghan war, opium production in Afghanistan and Pakistan was directed to small regional markets. There was no local production of heroin. (Alfred McCoy, Drug Fallout: the CIA's Forty Year Complicity in the Narcotics Trade. The Progressive, 1 August 1997).
Researcher Alfred McCoy's study confirms that within two years of the onslaught of the CIA operation in Afghanistan, "the Pakistan-Afghanistan borderlands became the world's top heroin producer, supplying 60 per cent of U.S. demand." (Ibid)
"CIA assets again controlled this heroin trade. As the Mujahideen guerrillas seized territory inside Afghanistan, they ordered peasants to plant opium as a revolutionary tax. Across the border in Pakistan, Afghan leaders and local syndicates under the protection of Pakistan Intelligence operated hundreds of heroin laboratories. During this decade of wide-open drug-dealing, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency in Islamabad failed to instigate major seizures or arrests. … (Ibid) "
It's all so...offensive!
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"Faith must have adequate evidence else it is mere superstition" Alexander Hodge
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 17:20:29 [Permalink]
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| Well, it's also a bit over the top. It's well known that the CIA had a role in the rise of what is now al-Qaeda, as they trained the locals to fight the USSR. But the implication that this was all some long, thought-out plan to create a post-USSR threat is highly unlikely. Indeed, the article reads much like the other "US was behind 9/11" threads seen here (though admittedly, much better written). |
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Lyzandra Daria
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 17:34:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
Well, it's also a bit over the top. It's well known that the CIA had a role in the rise of what is now al-Qaeda, as they trained the locals to fight the USSR. But the implication that this was all some long, thought-out plan to create a post-USSR threat is highly unlikely. Indeed, the article reads much like the other "US was behind 9/11" threads seen here (though admittedly, much better written).
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This article indicates that these machinations started back in the Carter Administration. While I can more readily believe Reagan had more to do with this...it's still quite...mind boggling. |
"Faith must have adequate evidence else it is mere superstition" Alexander Hodge
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/24/2008 : 22:53:57 [Permalink]
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The US did train and educate many Afghan fighters, as well as arm them. Our missiles made it impossible for the USSR to get troops into the hills to fight the mujahadeen, etc.
As far as I know we did most of it when Ronny RayGun was president.
After the collapse of the USSR in 1989 we just ignored those guys, and they went on to become the Taliban.
The US has a fine history of recruiting and training people to fight our enemies, and then later having those people turn on us. Iraq is another example. We sold them weapons when they were fighting Iran.
We are making the same error yet again in Iraq by arming and training the Sunnis. They are friendly for the moment, but when our common enemy there is dealt with they will not be our friends. We sacrifice the long term in exchange for short term "wins".
If the US learns anything from the taliban and al-qaeda it should be that dealing with these crazy fuckers is an unsustainable strategy over the long term.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Lyzandra Daria
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 12:04:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
The US did train and educate many Afghan fighters, as well as arm them. Our missiles made it impossible for the USSR to get troops into the hills to fight the mujahadeen, etc.
As far as I know we did most of it when Ronny RayGun was president.
After the collapse of the USSR in 1989 we just ignored those guys, and they went on to become the Taliban.
The US has a fine history of recruiting and training people to fight our enemies, and then later having those people turn on us. Iraq is another example. We sold them weapons when they were fighting Iran.
We are making the same error yet again in Iraq by arming and training the Sunnis. They are friendly for the moment, but when our common enemy there is dealt with they will not be our friends. We sacrifice the long term in exchange for short term "wins".
If the US learns anything from the taliban and al-qaeda it should be that dealing with these crazy fuckers is an unsustainable strategy over the long term.
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It's 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' tactic. I got that part (although I might have hoped our gov't would have learned that this policy isn't always mutually beneficial in the long term.
I was more distressed that it appears (as in the Iran/Contra dealings)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair
that the proliferation of drugs (opium) was encouraged to help pay for the creation of the Taliban...contradicting our supposed 'war on drugs' which is known to be a joke! 
This tactic seems to be self defeating. Possibly a topic for another discussion.
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"Faith must have adequate evidence else it is mere superstition" Alexander Hodge
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