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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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 Posted - 07/06/2009 : 20:36:24 [Permalink]
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| 2nd part was 911 conspiracy stuff, I'm no expert on the subject so I would be interested to hear any responses to it. I'm no believer in 911 conspiracy theories but watching this had me thinking twice. But I know not to get carried away since I believed the movie JFK until I read an article debunking it. |
Hey Vegeta. We have dealt with our fair share of 9/11 guys at SFN. See, for example:
here;
here;
here;
here;
and so on.
There's lots to wade through, and in our threads there is certainly a lot of talking in circles. But ultimately, the 9/11 conspiracy buffs can offer little in terms of a coherent thesis and the bulk of their argument rests on personal incredulity, a large distrust of the federal government, and a baffling confidence in said government's ability to keep a secret. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 07/06/2009 : 21:40:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
Hey Vegeta. We have dealt with our fair share of 9/11 guys at SFN... |
For some reason, Cune, you're replying to a 14-month-old post. |
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Evidently, I rock!
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 07/07/2009 : 07:53:06 [Permalink]
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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tmac1238
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 18:53:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Well, I wasn't about to sit through a 2 hour web movie (especially a poorly made one), but from what little I scrolled through, I gather that this film purports to reveal that Jesus wasn't a historical figure and that the American government was responsible for 9-11 and the Great Depression. And these "truths" will liberate humanity from the shackles of the planet's secret overlords or something?
Anyway, it appears to be 100% unmitigated drivel. Just one unevidenced non-sequitur after another. |
This is the typical response. What ususally then comes is some statement that the person who suggests that there is a conspiracy has mental problems. I would say that it appears like "unmitigated drivel" TO YOU. You then mentioned that it was "unevidenced." If you are bringing sanity to us, how have you benefited us? Did folk like you storm Bush and tell him he didn't have any evidence that Saddam was going to destroy us from no-fly-zones? Did you tell him that if 19 hijackers attacked us we shouldn't be building FEMA detention camps capable of housing millions of people? Did you tell him the government should not be snooping on America to protect us after 911 because it always was snooping us and 911 came anyway? That's why Bush didn't tell us after 911 that they had to build snooping devices: they were already built.
Now Bush told us our sons and daughters in the military have to shed their lives in order to build "a global democracy." What then happens when his juicy wars are voted down in 2006? What did you protect us from? From a Second Amendment in the Constitution that tell us we should keep arms in case Middle Eastern Muslim terrorists attack us? or in case the government does? |
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tmac1238
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 19:01:25 [Permalink]
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911 was a conspiracy! That's why the self-styled "conspiracy theorists" are the only ones who noticed that the greatest single internal tragedy in the United States should be independently investigated RIGHT AWAY!
All the purported SCIENTIFIC EXPERTS not only came up short on this, but they came up CONSPIRATORS.
Living on the internet staking watch to catch anyone understanding the truth to then curse the United States and the world as much as you guys have proves there is a conspiracy and many of you are part of it.
"Conspiracy theorists" did not cause America to grow white and knock-kneed because a defeated dictator wallowed in no-fly-zones while playing with his rubber ducky. That's why I personally am not interested in the opinions of the resident conspirators.
Now the Patriot Act is established granting secret trials, courts, unlawful detention without charge indefinitely and torture. The communists and the nazis already had these security codes. Tis no wonder that they also had propaganda teams like we now have today.
To prove there is a conspiracy, we show posters bold public death threats against all who are not Catholic. Just like the resident conspirators couldn't see that no-fly-zones are harmless, they cannot notice actual super-terrorists posting the worst death threats.
You can find the links with these threats somewhere at the top of this URL: TheirSecrets.info |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 19:02:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by tmac1238
If you are bringing sanity to us, how have you benefited us? Did folk like you storm Bush and tell him he didn't have any evidence that Saddam was going to destroy us from no-fly-zones? |
Wow, and I thought the movie was guilty of using too many non-sequiturs.
No, I didn't "storm" Bush, whatever that means exactly. I guess that means everything in the movie is true.
edited to add: You have mental problems. And by the way, has it ever occurred to you that the reason why this is the "typical" response to your rants is because you do have mental problems? Just asking.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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tmac1238
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 19:27:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
| Now the Patriot Act is established granting secret trials, courts, unlawful detention without charge indefinitely and torture. |
So you think some people in our government killed thousands of Americans so that they could get permission to do "naughty" stuff? That just doesn't make sense.
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Now calm down dingies! Remember you guys only appear when the possibility of solutions appear. America just waged a war to end all no-fly-zones. This could have been avoided if the calories you used to attack the solutions to the problems were used to work at not being a part of the problems.
The people you are hanging around to insinuate and state have mental problems are not the cause of America's problems. The ones who caused the problems have not been diagnosed. The "conspiracy theorists" also told their opposite counterparts that there was no good reason for the Iraq War and that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction. I noticed that since these people were absolutely correct and listening to them would have saved unbelievable lives and resources, resident "conspiracy theorist" chasers have been more active and have claimed more credibility. You all couldn't see you were wrong. Those behind the conspiracy never can notice that they always are. |
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tmac1238
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 19:37:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Originally posted by tmac1238
If you are bringing sanity to us, how have you benefited us? Did folk like you storm Bush and tell him he didn't have any evidence that Saddam was going to destroy us from no-fly-zones? |
Wow, and I thought the movie was guilty of using too many non-sequiturs.
No, I didn't "storm" Bush, whatever that means exactly. I guess that means everything in the movie is true.
edited to add: You have mental problems. And by the way, has it ever occurred to you that the reason why this is the "typical" response to your rants is because you do have mental problems? Just asking. |
Dude: do you know that your fathers in the nazi and communist regimes always had that same habit of ASSuming that humans have mental problems cause they love to be free to believe differently than you? My my! We now have detention camps too!
My my! You guys want to wage wars all over the world for FREEDOM! For FREEDOM to be mentally ill and not agreeing with ya!
The more they urge us to fight in wars for our FREEDOMS, is the more they tell us we can't afford to disagree with them and refuse their mental diagnoses! |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 19:43:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by tmac1238
You all couldn't see you were wrong. Those behind the conspiracy never can notice that they always are. |
How refreshingly pure a paranoid accusation. So we all are behind the conspiracy? Just us at SFN, or everyone in general, hmmm? When do I get my paycheck?
Pardon me if I think you a fucking lunatic.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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tmac1238
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 19:46:21 [Permalink]
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There were some very fierce NO-FLY-ZONES lying around! How are propagandists going to know PARANOIA when they can't see anything?
How can F-ING lunatics ever cause America a problem! How is it a tragic war against a defeated dictator was waged and the new breed of fascist psychiatrists couldn't see paranoia?
The most major tragedy internally in the United States takes place. An independent investigation is then made FOURTEEN MONTHS LATER! And all we hear from the causes of all the problems is that we're insane!
PLEASE, PLEASE AMERICAN SOLDIERS! Go to war to defend our freedoms! We'll stay here and on the internet to make sure no one thinks differently than US! |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 20:33:33 [Permalink]
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tmac1238, I'll let you in on a little secret: you can be against the war and Bush's policies while still believing 9-11 conspiracy theorists are nutty and wrong. So screaming at us about things none of us ever supported in the first place isn't going to change any minds here.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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tmac1238
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 20:39:41 [Permalink]
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| I didn't even hear the expression "Conspiracy theorists" for most of my life. It was created for a purpose. But I see guys just like you following the same script all over the internet. It's one thing to say you don't support Bush policy and another thing to let him go free without the constant obsession against good people who would have done their utmost to stop him just because you got psychiatry degrees from Antichrist university. You sure use the same methods as others who support Bush policy. Little argument and evidence, much calling for argument and evidence, and copying your fathers of the nazi and communist regimes in their concentration camps with typical and constant mental diagnoses. That's why it's natural to you to wait 14 months after that tragedy to start and independent investigation. That's why none of you can figure out that the communists and nazis already had the principles contained in the Patriot Act for security. How come you didn't say anything? |
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tmac1238
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Posted - 08/01/2009 : 20:42:44 [Permalink]
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If conspirators stopped tracking down those who would stop the conspiracy, would they realize that America should go after Osama Bin Laden? Obama already said, "Al Qaedda must be stopped!" He then surged our troops into Afghanistan with no word about going after Osama.
Matthew 26
31 Then saith Jesus unto them, All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be scattered abroad.
Nothing is conspiracy? Only reality is that the ones who would save America are f-ing lunatics?
If I was a terrorist and hated Bush, you know what I would do? I would not seek the world of financing to hijack planes or train in any school. I would instead put Bush in my scope and do it CHEAP!
Never thought of why the awesome terrorists are so stupid to attack everything else, and when Bush fails to protect, he demands more dictator powers over the Constitution because he didn't protect? Never thought it strange that the other politicians and branches of government would give him that power he demands for failing to protect? How could that have passed you by? |
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New World Order happening right now!!!!
