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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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 Posted - 04/09/2008 : 08:38:42
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A Pulitzer Prize for Bob Dylan
| A Special Citation to Bob Dylan for his profound impact on popular music and American culture, marked by lyrical compositions of extraordinary poetic power. |
It should be noted that no other rock musician has ever won this prize. And considering the work he is doing these days, which may be some of his best, I think this award is richly deserved and way cool...
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bngbuck
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Posted - 04/09/2008 : 08:41:18 [Permalink]
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Kil.....
I'm not a great fan of rock, but you are totally on target here, Dylan is a national treasure! He richly deserves the Pulitzer! |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 04/09/2008 : 10:17:49 [Permalink]
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Seriously? Im sorry but pulizters should not be awarded for popularity(imagine this nightmare). Dylan was a great lyricist, however he is hardly the finest.
Edit: the answer to your question is...Chuck D, off the top of my head. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
 Posted - 04/09/2008 : 15:04:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Seriously? Im sorry but pulizters should not be awarded for popularity(imagine this nightmare). Dylan was a great lyricist, however he is hardly the finest.
Edit: the answer to your question is...Chuck D, off the top of my head.
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I don't think this was a popularity award and Dylan is still a great lyricist. Also, his influence can't be overstated.
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 04/09/2008 : 16:08:42 [Permalink]
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Sure, I am in no way belittling Dylans influence or ability. I am only saying it's a slippery slope, When our kids are in charge could they deny this..."A Special Citation to Harry Potter for his profound impact on popular literature and American culture, marked by magical compositions of extraordinary poetic power."
Dylan has plenty of awards and recognition, this is only a publicity stunt for the Pulitzer group. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 04/09/2008 : 17:39:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Sure, I am in no way belittling Dylans influence or ability. I am only saying it's a slippery slope, When our kids are in charge could they deny this..."A Special Citation to Harry Potter for his profound impact on popular literature and American culture, marked by magical compositions of extraordinary poetic power."
Dylan has plenty of awards and recognition, this is only a publicity stunt for the Pulitzer group.
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Well, it seems that this isn't the first time the Pulitzer Board has done such an awful thing as giving out a SPECIAL AWARD AND CITATION.
1957
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS – LETTERS Kenneth Roberts
A special citation is awarded to Kenneth Roberts for his historical novels which have long contributed to the creation of greater interest in our early American history.
1960
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS - LETTERS Garrett Mattingly
A special citation is awarded to The Armada by Garrett Mattingly, published by Houghton, Mifflin. It is a first class history and a literary work of high order.
1961
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS – LETTERS American Heritage Picture History of the Civil War
A special citation is given to The American Heritage Picture History of the Civil War as a distinguished example of American book publishing.
1964
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS - JOURNALISM Gannett Newspapers
A special citation for their program, "The Road To Integration," a distinguished example of the use of a newspaper group's resources to complement the work of its individual newspapers.
1973
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS - LETTERS James Thomas Flexner
A special citation to George Washington, Vols. I-IV, by James Thomas Flexner.
1974
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS - MUSIC Roger Sessions
A special citation to Roger Sessions for his life's work as a distinguished American composer.
1976
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS - JOURNALISM Professor John Hohenberg
A special citation and an antique plaque inscribed by all the members of the Advisory Board, expressing appreciation for his services for 22 years as Administrator of the Pulitzer Prizes and for his achievements as teacher and journalist.
1978
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS - LETTERS E.B. White
A special citation to E. B. White for his letters, essays and the full body his work.
1982
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS - MUSIC Milton Babbitt
A special citation to Milton Babbitt for his life's work as a distinguished and seminal American composer.
1984
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS - LETTERS Theodor Seuss Geisel
A special citation to Theodor Seuss Geisel, more widely known as Dr. Seuss, for his special contribution over nearly half a century to the education and enjoyment of America's children and their parents.
1985
SPECIAL AWARDS AND CITATIONS - MUSIC William Schuman
A special citation to William Schuman for more than half a century of contribution to American music as composer and educational leader.
2006
SPECIAL CITATION Edmund S. Morgan
A Special Citation to Edmund S. Morgan for a creative and deeply influential body of work as an American historian that spans the last half century.
SPECIAL CITATION Thelonious Monk
A posthumous Special Citation to American composer Thelonious Monk for a body of distinguished and innovative musical composition that has had a significant and enduring impact on the evolution of jazz.
2007
SPECIAL CITATION John Coltrane
A posthumous special citation for his masterful improv |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 03:40:35 [Permalink]
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| Now you're getting it Kil, fight the power! Most of those are literary, I have no issues with those... It sure seems like they are pumping out now, what was previously a once every few years item. Those last four are pandering. I'm sorry but Bradbury is hardly unmatched by Phillip K. Dick who could be argued to be even more influential to Sci-Fi. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 09:21:23 [Permalink]
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BPS said:
| I'm sorry but Bradbury is hardly unmatched by Phillip K. Dick who could be argued to be even more influential to Sci-Fi. |
Not to say anything negative about Phillip K. Dick (because you can't, really), but Bradbury's writing has the ability to influence the way you think. I read Fahrenheit 451 when I was a little kid (11 or 12 years old), and the story is still etched in my memory. It made me think about things I would never have considered at that age (or any other age, maybe). Very few books have had that sort of impact on me (1984, Brave New World, to name a couple).
I've read a lot of Phillip K. Dick's stories, and while they are superb fiction none of them rise to that level. The level where you put the book down and the world around you is, literally, a different place.
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 10:27:04 [Permalink]
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| I disagree, PKD has virtually the same effect on me as Bradbury does on you. Oh well, nothing to get in a tiff over, they both rock. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/10/2008 : 12:15:34 [Permalink]
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No argument from me on that point!
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Another first for Bob Dylan
