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Kacey
Skeptic Friend
USA
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 Posted - 05/21/2002 : 06:55:22 [Permalink]
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So Kacey, did you ever think about how Jesus might be a woman because he wore a dress. Kinda makes you think....you know what I mean?
I mean evidence like that is pretty much irrefutable.
@tomic
Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law!
And you want us to believe we use to be fish because we find fish fossils.....I mean evidence like that is pretty much irrefutable.
Kacey
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Kacey
Skeptic Friend
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 06:59:14 [Permalink]
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ktesibios:
Do you understand the difference between my claiming, for example, that I have a collection of Spanish doubloons in
my closet at home, and my actually bringing them out and showing them to you? Or claiming that I own a Porsche
versus showing you the car and the title to it?*
It really is that simple. If the things you say exist exist, the first thing you have to do is to haul them out and show
them.
hey , send me your home address also. I'll have to send you a picture because I only have one cave wall and one rock and slater gets the real thing. Is a picture good enough for you?
Kacey
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Kacey
Skeptic Friend
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 07:01:41 [Permalink]
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ketibios, great post.
Kasey, a quick question here. What do you think the "S" in "SFN" stands for? You've made some arguments, but have backed them, at my last count, with zero. There's been nothing I could hang an evidence hat on.
I have an idea. Go to your local library. Look for the section marked "Science". (The stern lady at the front desk will help you) Then read read read.
Look at it this way: once you reah 6th grade, you'll be ahead of all the other kids! Bonus!
Lissa
If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.
Lissa, once the cave wall and rock arrive at slaters house maybe you can have a sleep over and visit them......or would a picture be good enough for you also?
Kacey
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Kacey
Skeptic Friend
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 07:07:12 [Permalink]
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Ti posted:
Hi Kacey, and welcome back for round two.
Since you broached only the subject of flood geology with me, then I will stick with flood geology. However, you
are, again, beginning with a claim with no evidence to support it. Please, remember that the person making a claim is
the one responsible for proving it. In this case, though, I will forgive you, and go to the source of your claim-—The
book of Genesis.
Do you really expect me to answer each and every one of your questions in one post? sheeze. I'll tell you what. Pick your best of your cut and paste questions and start a new thread.
Kacey
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 07:33:37 [Permalink]
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Kacey, I sense that you're starting to run low on ammo. So, as I'm in a generous mood today, I'll give you some.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27686
But be careful how you fire it. It might riccochet.
Were you talking about the cave paintings found in Europe? If so, I don't recall seeing any bi-pedal animals depicted, except humans. Lots of deer and bison and such, but no hadrasaures (sp?). I'd be delighted if you'd send me a cave wall. Yeah. To hell with slater and Lisa! they'd not appreciate it nearly as much as I.
Hmm.
f, the Septic Skeptic
"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
- Albert Einstein
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Kacey
Skeptic Friend
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 07:34:49 [Permalink]
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lars_h:
You bring forth evidence for something that everyone has already has accepted. People in the old days might have
belived, that creatures such as dragons were real. I agree with this theory. Most people would agree with this
theory.
Pehaps you would also like a picture? ...or you could go to Lissa's sleepover at Slaters house.
Kacey
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Kacey
Skeptic Friend
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 07:44:07 [Permalink]
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Kacey, I sense that you're starting to run low on ammo. So, as I'm in a generous mood today, I'll give some.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27686
But be careful how you fire it. It might riccochet.
Were you talking about the cave paintings found in Europe? If so, I don't recall seeing any bi-pedal animals depicted, except humans. Lots of deer and bison and such, but no hadrasaures (sp?). I'd be delighted if you'd send me a cave wall. Yeah. To hell with slater! He'd not appreciate it nearly as much as I.
Hmm.
f, the Septic Skeptic
"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
- Albert Einstein
I've noticed a few post ago that the skeptic evos have already ran out of ammo. I'll know they are truly finished when they start to throw out the ad-hom.
If you e-mail lissa maybe you can get an e-vite to the great skeptic/evo slumber party @ slaters and see the cave wall and rock first hand. If not, then would a picture work for you?
BTW: Does anyone have a big box? This cave wall is pretty big huge and I may have to renege on sending it to Slater. I hope this doesn't ruin Lissa's slumber party over at Slaters house.
Kacey
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 07:46:18 [Permalink]
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Do you really expect me to answer each and every one of your questions in one post?
As always there troll/fundie finds a reason why it is unable to answer the questions.
As always rudeness follows.
It will soon be on its way...
"God-as revealed in his book of edicts and narratives is practically an idiot. He has nothing to say that any sensible person should want to listen to."
-- Johann Most
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Kacey
Skeptic Friend
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 07:58:20 [Permalink]
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Do you really expect me to answer each and every one of your questions in one post?
As always there troll/fundie finds a reason why it is unable to answer the questions.
As always rudeness follows.
It will soon be on its way...
"God-as revealed in his book of edicts and narratives is practically an idiot. He has nothing to say that any sensible person should want to listen to."
-- Johann Most
Who is this joker? I said if a new thread was started I would address the question there. Why is that rude? I think it is rather rude of you and others for trying to hi-jack this thread......which by the way is NOT about geology.
Kacey
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Mespo_man
Skeptic Friend
USA
312 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 08:00:27 [Permalink]
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Awwww, c'mon Kacey.
You're being ridiculous. Several people have thoughtfully requested the source of the cave painting you're refering to, so what's the big deal? Either you have a verifiable reference or you don't. If you have exclusive rights to the cave then don't waste your time here. You should be at Sotheby's or ebay.
Bring you accredited references to Lissa's house and I'll bring the popcorn. I prefer Orrville Redenbacker.
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Lars_H
SFN Regular
Germany
630 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 08:01:19 [Permalink]
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lars_h:
You bring forth evidence for something that everyone has already has accepted. People in the old days might have
belived, that creatures such as dragons were real. I agree with this theory. Most people would agree with this
theory.
[red]Pehaps you would also like a picture? ...or you could go to Lissa's sleepover at Slaters house.
Kacey
I've read the end of the bible....the Christians win.
You still don't understand. I belive you that you have old pictures of dragons. I even belive you when you say that they remind you of dinosaurs. What I don't belive is that there actually were living dragons or dinosaurs present when those pictures were made.
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jmcginn
Skeptic Friend
343 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 08:21:07 [Permalink]
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Who is this joker? I said if a new thread was started I would address the question there. Why is that rude? I think it is rather rude of you and others for trying to hi-jack this thread......which by the way is NOT about geology.
Well since this was about dinosaurs existing with man and the only place we find dinosaurs is in rock strata at certain layers then geology does come up in the discussion.
Since you then tried to use Noah's flood to describe why they are found only at certain layers the discussion has since shifted to showing why a global flood cannot account for the strata the way we find them.
Having said that I gave 3 major pieces of evidence for who a supposed global flood cannot account for the strata that dinosaurs are in.
Having said that we are left to find another explanation. So far the best explanation is that a long time has passed with numerous geological processes slowly accumulating sediment on top of the strata with dinosaurs. During this time environments and ecosystems have changed and life has evolved with new species evolving and existing species going extinct.
Any concept of man and dinosaur goes against allot of evidence to the contrary including radiometric dating and fossil locations in the strata.
A little bit of artwork of mythical creatures that might be interpreted as dinosaurs if one is very loose with their interpretation is not very convincing to say the least.
Then throw in the fact that your supposed list of 10 has never came with a reference.
However that's ok Kacey because I have found your reference you are plagiarizing from.
Kacey's plagiarized source
I hope you know that copying from a source without referencing it is a form of plagiarism and a form of scholarly dishonesty.
Later,
jmcginn
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 08:46:11 [Permalink]
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However that's ok Kacey because I have found your reference you are plagiarizing from.
jmcginn
Odd that you had no trouble finding these photos and Kacey felt that he had to go the South America.
My favorite is the one from Sumatra with the picture of the chickens. KFC offers proof of the flood.
The allosaurus biting the elephants nose is funny too. Except it's a picture of two bison. The bison on the left has a smudge on it's ass which the fundie site has redrawn to be an eye and the rear legs as muppet dinosaur type jaws (hoof into mouth disease?).
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Kacey
Skeptic Friend
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 08:52:05 [Permalink]
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I love to listen to the evo criticism...all the while they create complete humanoid representations from a fragmented peice of skull cap and a portion of a jaw fossil.
Now talk about calling the kettle BLACK!
Kacey
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2002 : 08:53:01 [Permalink]
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Who is this joker? I said if a new thread was started I would address the question there. Why is that rude? I think it is rather rude of you and others for trying to hi-jack this thread......which by the way is NOT about geology.
Kacey, it's ALL about geology and paeolentolgy. The world is a text book that we are only beginning to read, indeed, we are barely past the introduction.
The afore-mentioned cave paintings are merely art, and while magnificent in their own right, have exactly nothing to do with science. Or modern religon, if it comes to that. They are simply artifacts produced by a people with at least as many superstitions and misconseptions of the world around them as we have about ours (I'm talking populations here, rather than individuals).
I'd like to ask an apparently off-topic question, if I may (and I will, regardless):
Do you believe that aliens from outer space come here and study us in sometimes embarresing ways? Do you know anyone that believes this? Have you checked out the UFO websites?
Ok, that's 3 questions instead of 1; so sue me.
The reason I ask this nonsense is to simply point out some of the really wild beliefs that are floating around our alledged civilization. An artist's beliefs and predjuces, however far out they might be, will show up in his art. It's as simple as that.
Did Cro Magnon man believe in dragons? I don't know and no one else does, either. Could he have found 'dragon' bones? Possibly, why not? But did he interpret these remains as dragon bones? Or, did he think that they were merely the garbage left over from a holy feast?
See what I'm sayin'?
Well, I guess the sleep over will be at Slater's digs. I was hoping to host it but I guess not.
I'll bring a big pot of killer beans and a quart of the finest, double distilled, sour mash moonshine. Let's party!
f
"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
- Albert Einstein
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