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Kacey
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Posted - 05/21/2002 :  22:48:26  Show Profile Send Kacey a Private Message
Future High School Science Text Book.
EVOLUTION OF THE SQUIRREL

Prior to the suburbanazation of the rural areas the squirrels had little to fear from crossing a road due to the occasional car that would pass by. As time slowly advanced, road usage continued to grow as people moved into and traveled through the area. This increase in traffic began to takes its toll and killed many squirrels as they scurried across the highways in search for food. As an automobile approached the squirrel would tend to change direction many times in the middle of the road running back and forth. This hesitation and increased road time on the part of the squirrel would lead to their early demise. Some of the squirrels would not change direction repeatably but instead run straight for the roads shoulder then into the woods. These squirrels tended to be naturally selected to survive and produced more offspring. Soon the squirrel population was on the rise again.
As time continued the squirrels learned to survive on the roads by evolving into a more flattened flounder shape. In this case the squirrels were mimicking a squirrel that had already been flattened by the wheels of automobiles. This new mutating survival tactic was due largely to the fact that drivers tend to swerve around already squashed squirrels. This current mutation presented a new advantage for the species. A flat shaped squirrel would have a higher survival rate giving it the ability to survive on the highway for longer periods of time.
One species of squirrel is evolving a fur that is reflective to light. During the early morning rush hours and just after dusk is when the squirrels are the most succeptable to becoming road kill. Fortunately the squirrels, that evolved from the red furred squirrels reflect the headlights of the automobiles thus increasing their chance for survival. Some scientist believe that the reflective squirrels looks like tail lights of another automobile to the motorist. This tail light mimic then tends to slow the driver down allowing the reflecting squirrel time to escape the path of the approaching automobile thus increasing their chance for survival.


[img]http://www.evolutionfairytale.com/images/flatsquirrel.jpg">




Kacey

I've read the end of the bible....the Christians win.

the_ignored
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Posted - 05/21/2002 :  23:29:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
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As time continued the squirrels learned to survive on the roads by evolving into a more flattened flounder shape.


It's more likely that all they'd do is just adapt their behaviour to be more careful crossing the road. The behavioural adaptation would be easier.

If you want more information on this, may I suggest going to the http://www.talkorigins.org site? I myself know precious little of biology so I can only say that you should go to those that do know. You can ask them questions in the feedback section and they'll give you the answer, as well as further reading references. They also have links explaining what evolution is, and how it generally works.

Oh, I forgot, if you're Karl Crawford, you've already been to TO, haven't you? From the attitude in your other posts, it seems that you're not interested in learning, but merely to goad and mock.

Well, I'm sure christ would approve. He sure made fun of a lot of people in the bible, and showed no-one any respect or politeness.

By the way, which creationist site did you get the picture from?

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Lars_H
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  06:39:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lars_H a Private Message
Your are so right Kacey evolution really does not makes sense now that you explained things to me. Hah, the idea that a species might evolve to adapt to different environment is stupid now that you have shown it to me in terms of flat squirrels.

Lets scrap all the biology textbooks that talk of evolution. Down with Mendel. Let's scrap genetics altogether. And while we are at it lets scrap all the other textbooks aswell. Geology is obviously a lie. Platetectonic causing earthquakes, how could we ever think of teaching our children such idiocy?. History especially those parts that contradict the events in the bible must be scraped as well. Thankfully they don't teach much about archeology in school anyway.

And then we will have to clean up the other science textbooks. Chemistry espescially organic chemistry will have to be rethought. The whole radiation stuff that those french came up with has to be wrong aswell, we know that radicarbon dating does not work afterall. And don't get me started about physics! Light from stars, that shown a million years ago, Hah don't make me lough. Obviously that Eistein guy did not know what he was talking about. The whole science of astronomy is as much a joke asmodern physics.

You now I just realised something if we scrap every text book that does not agree with the Bible we won't have much left. And if we use science we will just arrive at the same old conclusions that you have just shown us are wrong.

What are we going to teach the children instead? The Taliban had some idea of a religious education without evolutionists lies, but they just got bombed by the New World Order for it, so we can't ask them. Do you have any ideas how a good science textbook should look like?

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Kacey
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USA
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  06:43:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Kacey a Private Message
the_ignored :
If you want more information on this, may I suggest going to the http://www.talkorigins.org site?

Nah, don't like that site. To many errors, 1/2 truths and bogus claims.
But thanks for the tip anyway,


Kacey

I've read the end of the bible....the Christians win.



Edited by - kacey on 05/22/2002 06:55:11
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Kacey
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USA
99 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2002 :  06:46:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Kacey a Private Message
the_ignored :
Well, I'm sure christ would approve. He sure made fun of a lot of people in the bible, and showed no-one any respect
or politeness.

Could you present 6 examples so I can understand what you mean...or is this another uncalled for attempt to mock Jesus your creator?

Kacey

I've read the end of the bible....the Christians win.



Edited by - kacey on 05/22/2002 06:55:56
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Lars_H
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  06:50:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lars_H a Private Message
quote:

Lars_h:
If you want more information on this, may I suggest going to the http://www.talkorigins.org site?

[red]Nah, don't like that site. To many errors, 1/2 truths and bogus claims.
But thanks for the tip anyway,


Kacey

I've read the end of the bible....the Christians win.



I think you have me confused with somebody. In fact I think, that you have confused a lot of things.

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Kacey
Skeptic Friend

USA
99 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2002 :  06:51:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Kacey a Private Message
Lars_h:
You now I just realised something if we scrap every text book that does not agree with the Bible we won't have
much left. And if we use science we will just arrive at the same old conclusions that you have just shown us are
wrong.

Science agrees with the bible. The evo mistake is when they try to fit science into their biased models. It's kind of an interpretation problem.

Kacey

I've read the end of the bible....the Christians win.
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Xev
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USA
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  08:30:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Xev an ICQ Message Send Xev a Private Message
Bitch, you obviously don't know your science. The absurd thing is, you don't know your Bible either!

"Could you present 6 examples so I can understand what you mean...or is this another uncalled for attempt to mock Jesus your creator?"

Jesus was not the creator of man, you ignorent little bitch, God was. Jesus is the Son of God, not God himself. Stupid little fundie twerp.

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Kacey
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USA
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  08:58:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Kacey a Private Message
Wake up call for Xev.......Jesus is God and Jesus was the creator. (biblical verses upon request)

Check out this verse Xev...ROM 14:11 (you're part of the every)

Kacey

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LordofEntropy
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USA
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  10:11:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit LordofEntropy's Homepage Send LordofEntropy a Private Message
quote:

Nah, don't like that site. To many errors, 1/2 truths and bogus claims.
But thanks for the tip anyway,
Kacey



LOL, yet Kacey sends us to a web page for a christian theme park (God wants your money! He told us so!) as EVIDENCE that dragons, dinosaur, and man existed together.


Entropy just isn't what it used to be.
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Xev
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  10:20:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Xev an ICQ Message Send Xev a Private Message
"Wake up call for Xev.......Jesus is God and Jesus was the creator. (biblical verses upon request)"

Jesus is the Word, not God, nitwit. Jesus is not God, Jesus, as the son of God, is part of God. An attribute of God, not God himself.

God was the creator, He had to send His Son down to earth to redeem mankind for origional sin. DUH!

See: Jn.14:28
"My Father is greater than I."

1 Tim.2:5
"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."

"Check out this verse Xev...ROM 14:11 (you're part of the every)"

"Rom 14:11
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God."

What does that have to do with anything?


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filthy
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  10:59:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
LOL, yet Kacey sends us to a web page for a christian theme park (God wants your money! He told us so!) as EVIDENCE that dragons, dinosaur, and man existed together.

And I'm still lookin' for them bones. C'mon KC, either shit or get off the pot.

f



"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."

- Albert Einstein
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Kacey
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USA
99 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2002 :  11:02:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Kacey a Private Message
quote:

LOL, yet Kacey sends us to a web page for a christian theme park (God wants your money! He told us so!) as EVIDENCE that dragons, dinosaur, and man existed together.

And I'm still lookin' for them bones. C'mon KC, either shit or get off the pot.

f



"He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."

- Albert Einstein




I'm still waiting for the refute on the dino page...seems like you evos are at a stand still.

anyway
For dino blood web sites, check ut the following:
click here
and click here
and here

and also here

...and the sites go on and on.

Kacey

I've read the end of the bible....the Christians win.
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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  11:41:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I have refuted. Kick it on back to the dragon thread, bro.

f

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Xev
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USA
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  11:42:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Xev an ICQ Message Send Xev a Private Message
*Yawn*

Your sites are utter bullshit, Kayce. Get a fucking clue. One even cites the Paluxy hoax as fact!

In any case, a simple case of incomplete fossilization proves nothing, even if it had occured.

You're an annoying little troll Kayce, go back to lurking under your bridge.

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the_ignored
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Posted - 05/22/2002 :  11:42:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
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Could you present 6 examples so I can understand what you mean...or is this another uncalled for attempt to mock Jesus your creator?


OK, (by the way, you said "another uncalled for attempt". Where was my first attempt?)

1.) When Jesus cursed the fig tree for not bearing fruit OUT OF SEASON. If he was as good as they say, he'd have MADE IT BLOOM instead of cursing it.-->he insulted their intelligence by railing at a tree that wasn't supposed to have figs on it yet! (a mild case, but still, he acted like a goof)

2.)Jesus had said that "all things are possible to them that believe" (Mark 9:23) but because of unbelief of others, Jesus was unable to perform miracles on occasion. (Matt 13:58, Mark 6:5)-->instead of admitting he was a fraud, he just blamed OTHER people!

3.) He said that who ever calls someone else a fool is in danger of hell fire, (Matt 5:22) but he himself called people fools other times (Matt 23:17, Luke 24:25)-->hypocrosy is, to me, a mockery of a person

4.)When the mother of a gentile kid asked Jesus to heal her daughter, Jesus ignored her at first, implied she was a dog, and didn't heal the kid until the mother admitted she was a dog, but even dogs get some table scraps. She had to demean herself before Jesus would help. Imagine a medical doctor treating a patient's mother like that. He'd be brought up before the ethics board! (Matt 15:21-28)

4.)At least some times when Jesus spoke to his mother in the bible, he addressed her as "woman". John 2:4, John 19:26-->for instance at the wedding where she asked him to help out. (he later relented and turned water into wine, BUT just imagine saying to your mother: "Woman, what am I to do with you?") If you don't think that's not showing disrespect, Kacey, try saying that to your own mother sometime!!

5.) Once, when someone asked if he could attend his father's funeral before going with Jesus, Jesus said: "Let the (it's assumed he meant "spiritually dead") dead bury the dead" --> or (let the dead bury their own dead), depending on bible version
used. Let's face it, any employer who so callously dismisses the funeral of any employee's family member would be considered really rude.

6.) Jesus lied when he said: "I have spoken openly to the world; I have ALWAYS taught in the synagogues and in the temple, where all Jews come together; I NEVER spoke secretly" (John 18:20) This is in direct contradiction, however, to what we find elsewhere. Not only did Jesus teach in places other than synagogues and the temple, but HE HIMSELF SPECIFICALLY INDICATED THAT HIS TEACHINGS WERE NOT ALWAYS OPEN, BUT WERE SOMETIMES INTENDED TO BE SECRET!

He taught on the "mount" (5:1-7:28), by the sea (Matthew 13:1), on the plain (Luke 6:17-49), and in other places. To his disciples he said: "To you has been given the SECRET of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables; so THAT THEY MAY INDEED SEE BUT NOT PERCEIVE, AND INDEED HEAR BUT NOT UNDERSTAND: LEST THEY SHOULD TURN ABOUT AND BE FORGIVEN" (Mark 4:11-12).--> this counts only if you consider lying to be a mockery.
(found this one at http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/jesus_was_hypocrite.html

Ah, shit. Good enough. Even if you can dismiss the first few, you can't dismiss #4. Besides, as I've pointed out, the http://www.jewsforjudaism.org site refutes the idea of christ being the creator in the first place, so I'm not mocking anyone who actually exists. Please note the failed prophecy of Matt 10:23.

My turn. You said that
quote:
Nah, don't like that site. To many errors, 1/2 truths and bogus claims.
But thanks for the tip anyway,


So, can you give 6 examples of the talk origins site using bogus claims, lies, 1/2 truths, please?

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