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Megan
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Posted - 06/11/2002 :  20:34:47  Show Profile Send Megan a Private Message

gezzam
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Posted - 06/11/2002 :  22:33:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit gezzam's Homepage Send gezzam a Private Message
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Why do people actually fall for this sh*t?



It just happens Megan, and I can't explain it. It took 29 yeard to find love, I'd thought I'd had it before, but I never really had it untill I found Fiona by the juke box at one of my favorite bars.

I used to think it was a crock too, but wait. It might happen or it might not for you.

I just say, don't go out looking for love. I didn't, it will come up and bite you on the arse when you least expect it, and when it does, it's pretty cool.

Oh - and don't trust us men, be wary of some of them. It's those bad ones that destroy our reputations - huh fella's.....

"Damn you people. Go back to your shanties." --- Shooter McGavin
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Snake
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USA
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Posted - 06/11/2002 :  23:18:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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My sister is 16 and she had a boyfriend, 19, and she claimed that they were 'in love.'


Geeses, my son is 18 and I can't think he'd be interested in a little 16 year old.(I hope not) Whatever!....each case is different.
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That was before he cheated on her with another girl.


Cheating is such an ugly word. I think people should be free to be with whom ever they want. Even if they have some sort of agreement to be together, 18, 16, 19 or even 21 IMO is way too young to make a decision to be so serious.
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But now after about two months of the breakup, she is rethinking how she actually feels about him....she says, "I still love him." (Go figure)

There's nothing so unusual about that. Sometimes it takes even years to get over someone. My advice is to start seeing other people right away, get out go to parties, go out with friends, do anything to get her mind off wanting him only.
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One of my best friends met a guy on the internet. After talking for several months, they decided to 'go out' or 'date' each other. Yes she knows that it's not a good idea

Why does she or you think that's not a good idea? Meeting on the Internet is not a bad thing. You can meet some nice people there. Right Kil, @tomic?
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Why do people actually fall for this sh*t?
Why do they call this 'teenage love'?
And why is it always us girls that fall 'head over heels' for "the one"?(I have yet to meet a guy that is my age that is totally 'in love' with that one special girl)
~Megan~
Questions: never leave home without them.


There are guys who feel that way. Probably different for each person.
One thought about why they don't feel that way is that, as in my sons case, he's busy going to school and looking forward to making a future for himself. Maybe he has a girlfriend and I don't know but judging from his attitude although he likes girls he is too self-centered to care about anyone the way you'd want him to. When he's settled down, in 20 years, then he can get serious. Women(of any age), expect too much.
I hope my son doesn't meet any woman who tries to trap him into a relationship he's not ready for.
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Edited by - snake on 06/11/2002 23:31:38
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Lisa
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Posted - 06/11/2002 :  23:24:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Uh Snake, Megan left out a teeny bit of information. The girl Nick was cheating with is 13. And this still didn't give Erika a wake-up call.
Good grief Megan, is she still mooning over this asshole? If she could get her shit together, she could do so much better.
Lisa

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@tomic
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Posted - 06/11/2002 :  23:33:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
You know, that seems like such a small detail but it is actually a very important aspect of that to consider. A 19 year old dating a 13 year old? Maybe in some parts of the world but it should raise some eyebrows at the very least.

And Snake is right, meeting people you meet on the internet is no different from meeting people other ways with the exception that everyone seems to build up expectations about what the other person is like. It doesn't help if people are less than honest with each other before meeting but you have no idea until you do it.

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And why is it always us girls that fall 'head over heels' for "the one"?(I have yet to meet a guy that is my age that is totally 'in love' with that one special girl)


If I recall my teenage years, both sexes seem to have a new "the one" every other week or so. Sure every 1 out of 1,000 or so may end up marrying their high school sweetheart but I wouldn't place a bet on it.


@tomic

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Snake
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USA
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Posted - 06/11/2002 :  23:40:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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Uh Snake, Megan left out a teeny bit of information. The girl Nick was cheating with is 13.

I don't think that's important to the situation but......
Is he retarded? Or maybe he has other devious things on his mind. And he could be arrested. Where are the girls parents? What 19 year old could be interested in a 13 year old? Perhaps he's not the guy for Megans friend. Duh!
If she continues to want or wait for him, it's her problem. She will learn a big lesson. No one can tell her until she sees for herself. You can point out facts to a person but if they don't listen, I'd be outa there. Give it up. You aren't the protector of the world.

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Lisa
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Posted - 06/11/2002 :  23:48:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
*sigh*, no Snake, I gave up long ago. She doesn't listen to any of us, and there's no way to make her do so. I'm just here so that when she's leaning on the doorbell, all teary-eyed and weepy, I can give her a hug and send her back for another round.
Its sad. Megan is a sensible girl, but her step sister is a little on the clueless side. Megan gets frustrated sometimes, because guess who gets caught in the middle?
Lisa

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Snake
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Posted - 06/11/2002 :  23:58:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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And Snake is right, meeting people you meet on the internet is no different from meeting people other ways with the exception that everyone seems to build up expectations about what the other person is like. It doesn't help if people are less than honest with each other before meeting but you have no idea until you do it.

Thank you @. LOL, I found more less honest people when I was calling guys from the personals in the newspaper than on the 'net'.
Some of the nicest people and long term friendships I have, I've met on the net, and I include @ and Kil among them.
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If I recall my teenage years, both sexes seem to have a new "the one" every other week or so. Sure every 1 out of 1,000 or so may end up marrying their high school sweetheart but I wouldn't place a bet on it.


I think it usualy is that way too.
But there's always going to be those few who are a bit over the edge. That could happen at any age though. They either have to deal with it or get professional help. On the other hand, there wouldn't be material for stories for movies if everyone was normal or average.
What was that movie with Michael Douglas?

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Snake
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Posted - 06/12/2002 :  00:10:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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I'm just here so that when she's leaning on the doorbell, all teary-eyed and weepy, I can give her a hug and send her back for another round.
Its sad. Megan is a sensible girl, but her step sister is a little on the clueless side. Megan gets frustrated sometimes, because guess who gets caught in the middle?
Lisa


Well, you're a better friend than I.
I think if after you've tried to explain something to someone, THAT'S IT. They have to learn for themself. If you are always there for them to fall on how will they get through life when you aren't there?
If her step sister is a bimbo, that's too bad. Megan has to move on with her life and not let people like that drag her down. She's too young to be worring about a problem like that. Isn't that what parents are for?

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Lisa
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2002 :  00:40:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Some of what you're saying is true, no doubt. Megan pretty much ignores what her sis does, but when things get tense around the house it can be frustrating for her.
I like Erika, I just don't like some of the stuff she does. We were friends long before all this crap started, and I won't abandon her just because she's going through a bit of a rough patch. I've had my share of screw-ups too, you know?
Its just sad. She's bright and pretty, and there are some days I'd just love to kick her ass.
Lisa

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Gorgo
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USA
5311 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2002 :  04:28:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
I think a bigger question than whether or not love exists is whether or not people get addicted to their emotional dramas. I think girls often somehow learn that it's a good thing to feel as though they're overwhelmed or overpowered by their emotions.

By "good thing" I don't mean that they're outwardly happy about it, but rather they learn that a good life consists of a series of emotional dramas. Hence the term "drama queen."

Love, to me, is a productive thing. What you are describing isn't productive, but a type of addiction. I think Stanton Peele has a good article on this on his web site. I'll look for it.

"Not one human life should be expended in this reckless violence called a war against terrorism." - Howard Zinn
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Gorgo
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Posted - 06/12/2002 :  04:44:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
http://www.peele.net/lib/laa4.html

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Tokyodreamer
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2002 :  06:29:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tokyodreamer a Private Message
As I look back on my own teenage years, and observe current teenage behavior, I am thinking more and more that puberty should be classified as a temporary (hopefully) mental illness.

Seriously.

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Gorgo
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2002 :  06:50:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
I don't think it's limited to teenagers. I think humanity should be classified as a temporary mental illness
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As I look back on my own teenage years, and observe current teenage behavior, I am thinking more and more that puberty should be classified as a temporary (hopefully) mental illness.

Seriously.

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Xev
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2002 :  12:20:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Xev an ICQ Message Send Xev a Private Message
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You know, that seems like such a small detail but it is actually a very important aspect of that to consider. A 19 year old dating a 13 year old? Maybe in some parts of the world but it should raise some eyebrows at the very least.


Umm, here in Michigan, the age of consent is 16. I don't know where Megan's friend lives, but that constitutes statutory rape in all states of the union (lowest age of consent is 14).

Now, onto love. Xev wonders if she has ever truely felt this interesting emotion. She has, however, no doubt that it exists.

In any case, it has certainly never been reciprocated. Most interesting, Xev tends to fall for people out of her leauge.

As for the 'net, go for it. When one thinks of it, it's no worse than meeting people through the classifieds and probably more honest.

As for safety, well...there are background checks and all that.

In conclusion, love sucks, lack of love sucks. :)

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Lisa
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2002 :  12:55:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Xev, you are correct. As a matter of fact, the guy did get tossed in jail for screwing the 13 year old.
And yes, this young lady has a tendency for drama queen-ish-ness.
Lisa

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