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The Rat
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Canada
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 Posted - 03/28/2002 : 20:37:23
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For those of you who have often expressed the thought that we Canucks are a little more sensible, I'm going to burst your bubble big time;
http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/02n2.html
Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.
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Lisa
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 03/29/2002 : 08:50:43 [Permalink]
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Which article? The link just took me to cn news.
Lisa
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 03/29/2002 : 08:53:35 [Permalink]
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Since it's kinda short:
Teen smelled guilty
By Rob Granatstein -- Toronto Sun
At an Ottawa high school, a drug dog's bark is final.
Fifteen-year-old Christopher Laurin was suspended for two days on Tuesday because an Ottawa Police dog indicated it smelled pot on the student's jacket.
But Laurin had no drugs on him. No one else, not the St. Matthew high school principal nor his parents, could sniff any scent of pot on the coat.
It didn't matter. When the dog barks, the student pays the price.
"He didn't have any drugs on his jacket. He didn't do anything wrong. What if he had left his coat in someone's car, and that person had a joint?" asked Michel Laurin, Chris' father.
"I know they're trying to do the right thing, but suspension for a coat?" he said.
Const. Paul Caissie, of Toronto Police Dog Services, said detector dogs can pick up the smell of residue amounts of marijuana that's a couple of months old.
"If the detector dog has his training standards in order, it's quite probable and accepted to believe what that dog did," he said. "I would believe it from my experiences with my K-9.
"But you don't just base it totally on just the dog. You have to have other indicators present."
Caissie said he and his drug-detector dog, Bandit, are called into Toronto schools all the time.
"We don't search students," Caissie said.
A spokesman at the Toronto District School Board said no similar suspensions have been levied at Hogtown schools.
-- with files from CP
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/29/2002 : 09:05:57 [Permalink]
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Interesting. It makes the dog the equivelent of a jury.
Ok, that's perhaps a bit of a strech, but it is certainly a lousey reason to suspend the kid.
What if the dog broke training a bit and smelled a trace of McD's grease on the jacket?
I think if it were my kid, I'd be screaming bloody murder about it.
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"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."--Benjamin Franklin, _Poor_Richard_, 1758
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Garrette
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 03/29/2002 : 09:26:28 [Permalink]
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This has been on the radio quite a bit this morning.
I agree that screaming bloody murder is the appropriate response.
A trained dog's response to a stimulus is the BEGINNING of an investigation, not the end.
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jec96
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 04/12/2002 : 02:40:44 [Permalink]
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Could be a false positive off of his baloney sandwich....
-It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle
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Kaneda Kuonji
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 04/12/2002 : 20:04:16 [Permalink]
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*shakes his head*
In the US, the principal would be, at the very least, get chewed out by the superintendent for this utter act of idiocy, if not having to apologize outright.
dogs do not equal a jury.
Rodney Dean, CI Order of the Knights of Jubal
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The Rat
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 04/13/2002 : 02:33:21 [Permalink]
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In the US, the principal would be, at the very least, get chewed out by the superintendent for this utter act of idiocy, if not having to apologize outright.
I don't know, KK, are you sure? There have been some reports of pretty stupid things happening here (USA) too.
I'd like to know if that's not a planted story or an out right joke, it sounds too idiototic and backward for anyone to be so irrational.
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**"I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the president."
(-- Hillary Clinton commenting on the release of subpoenaed documents.)
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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2002 : 07:19:44 [Permalink]
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I'd like to know if that's not a planted story or an out right joke, it sounds too idiototic and backward for anyone to be so irrational.
I'm certain that it's genuine. I sent it to Randy Cassingham, of 'This is True' fame, and it appeared in his column. He tends to confirm his stories so that he isn't printing urban legends, so iffen it's good enuff fer him, it'd good enuff fer me.
BTW, see my above post for a follow-up.
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