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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
 Posted - 09/06/2002 : 02:48:22 [Permalink]
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I didn't say he was wrong.
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Well, there are conspiracy theories and there are conspiracy theories. I happen to think Solly's makes a lot of sense. It's also relatively easy to notice, unlike some I could mention.
"Not one human life should be expended in this reckless violence called a war against terrorism." - Howard Zinn
Edited by - gorgo on 09/06/2002 02:48:51 |
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welshdean
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
172 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2002 : 07:56:26 [Permalink]
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My, oh my!
Slater, are you showing your true colours? You appear to be very closed minded on this issue. Firstly, whether I'm a smoker or not is immaterial, so I wont divulge that info, although it has to be said that it has no bearing whatsoever in my being tolerant (or not) of others less fortunate.
You so eloquently stated quote:
"I wish Eco-terrorists were blowing up smokers!!
In my very humble opinion, this statement makes you no better than a 7mth old, dry, white, flakey, dog turd! It is without exception, the most closed minded, bigoted, anti-humane statement I have read on this site. Incidentally snake seemed to echo your thoughts with the statement that read quote:
"I hate those bastards so much..."
and a similar sentiment goes out there too!
If i retyped any of the above anti-smoking replies and replaced the word smoke (or any derivative of the verb: smoke) amd replaced it with FAT, UGLY, JEW, NEGRO etc, etc, then I would (fairly, it has to be said) be subject to a tirade of abuse.
Where do you pair of perfect beings get off by being so fucking bigotted. I despise people of your ilk and it is people of the same frame of mind that caused the atrocities on 11/9/01. You are both closed minded, blinkered, bigotted, uneducated wankers that spend more time trying to tread on other peoples lives than trying to improve their own.
I thought a defining characteristic of a skeptic was being open minded, the pair of you should spend some time on Phils board with the other knobs and trolls, you should get along quite well there.
GET A FUCKING LIFE, WANKERS!!!
I believe in nothing; only my scepticism kept me from being an atheist.
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PhDreamer
SFN Regular
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2002 : 08:21:18 [Permalink]
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Welshdean,
Comparing your plight to that of religious or ethnic minorites is nonsensical. I'm not saying Slater's or Solly's vitriol is accurate, but maybe if you'd stop viewing yourself as a helpless, persecuted victim, you'd understand better why some people feel the way they do.
Generally speaking, the errors in religion are dangerous; those in philosophy only ridiculous.
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2002 : 08:30:07 [Permalink]
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Those that smoke choose every puff. I know, I did it. "Addiction" is just another word for making the same dumb choice over and over again. Decide not to do that anymore and you won't. The reasons people continue are because they think they're addicted, they think they'll gain weight, they think they're not assholes when they are smoking.
You gain weight because you eat too much and don't exercise enough. If you think you're an asshole when you don't smoke and you think you're not when you do smoke, you don't understand the situation.
"Not one human life should be expended in this reckless violence called a war against terrorism." - Howard Zinn |
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2002 : 08:47:50 [Permalink]
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quote:
If i retyped any of the above anti-smoking replies and replaced the word smoke (or any derivative of the verb: smoke) amd replaced it with FAT, UGLY, JEW, NEGRO etc, etc, then I would (fairly, it has to be said) be subject to a tirade of abuse.
One small point.
That people are any thing of what you wrote causes no physical threat to anybody else.
Smokers threaten the health of other people.
My fiancee is asthmatic, the cigarette smoke from our neighbors caused an attack that was a serious threat to our then unborn daughter. (If the mother gets no oxygen...).
Smokers also support a business that is highly immoral. The revenue from sales finances marketing and promotion to ensnare more victims. Most of them underage.
Smokers might be victims, but they are not helpless and almost none of them innocent.
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2002 : 09:54:54 [Permalink]
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Slater, are you showing your true colours?
Those are my colors; we don't have "U's" here in California.
You appear to be very closed minded on this issue.
If you aren't closed minded on this issue then why aren't you just taking my stance under consideration instead of attacking it?
Firstly, whether I'm a smoker or not is immaterial, so I wont divulge that info, although it has to be said that it has no bearing whatsoever in my being tolerant (or not) of others less fortunate.
Can we guess whether you're a smoker?
In my very humble opinion, this statement makes you no better than a 7mth old, dry, white, flakey, dog turd! It is without exception, the most closed minded, bigoted, anti-humane statement I have read on this site.
Go light up another one. And when you find that you've given your child asthma from your second hand smoke tell them it's because you were being humane.
If i retyped any of the above anti-smoking replies and replaced the word smoke (or any derivative of the verb: smoke) amd replaced it with FAT, UGLY, JEW, NEGRO etc, etc, then I would (fairly, it has to be said) be subject to a tirade of abuse.
Where do you pair of perfect beings get off by being so fucking bigotted.
If a fat person walks in the same room with you do you become fat? Do you become less attractive if a butt ugly person is in the same restaurant? If a "Negro" shares an elevator with you are you going to spend the rest of the day with "blackness" in your hair and on your clothes? If you go to a party where there are one or two Jews do you stand any chance that your foreskin will fall off?
Not on your life. BUT if I retype any of these categories with any derivative of the verb: smoke and they become a resounding YES!
Smoking is aggressive anti-social behavior. It is on a level with indiscriminately pissing on everyone around you, friends and strangers alike. The main difference being that urine doesn't cause cancer and it won't go into the strangers lungs.
Do you think you can pull this crap on other people and they are supposed to sit around and take it? Who made you lord over the rest of us? Who are you to force us to smoke?
I despise people of your ilk and it is people of the same frame of mind that caused the atrocities on 11/9/01.
You equate "No Smoking" rules with the murder of thousands of innocent people?
Can I guess yet if you are a smoker or not?
You are both closed minded, blinkered, bigotted, uneducated wankers that spend more time trying to tread on other peoples lives than trying to improve their own.
Are you educated enough to read the warning label on the side of your cigarette pack? It says that you're gonna die.
Around one smoker in every four is going to die from smoking. So don't complain to me if I don't mind if Eco-terrorists blow you up. The pack already warned you that it was hazardous, and being blown up is certainly less painful than the deaths my loved ones had from cigarettes.
Death aside -- four smokers out of every four stink to high heaven from it.
I thought a defining characteristic of a skeptic was being open minded, the pair of you should spend some time on Phils board with the other knobs and trolls, you should get along quite well there.
Where do you get off demanding "open mindedness" in the midst of an infantile tirade of abuse and insults? Your nicotine riddled mind is as closed as a bear trap.
Your smoking drastically affects everyone around you. You do not have the right to do whatever you please to other people and their property without their permission.
Simple curtsey and etiquette should be enough to prevent you smokers from abusing the rest of us. Since it does not, since so many of you lack simple good manners, then laws had to be passed.
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My business is to teach my aspirations to conform themselves to fact, not to try and make facts harmonize with my aspirations. ---Thomas Henry Huxley, 1860 |
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2002 : 23:45:47 [Permalink]
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I thought a defining characteristic of a skeptic was being open minded,
I don't think so. Why would you say that?
I think it's just the opposit. If one has an open mind he might be 'open' to accepting many ideas, whereas a skeptic, questions things.
Also, who among us can cast the 1st stone?
One can be a skeptic yet have opinions and likes and dislikes about certain issues.
Do you know anyone who is so skeptical or open minded or whatever you want to call it, that he has no favor toward anything?
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