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NubiWan
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Posted - 08/04/2002 :  13:30:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send NubiWan a Private Message
Me breath is bated...

"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." -Voltaire
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Slater
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Posted - 08/05/2002 :  12:03:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
Hmm, here's a piece from Michael Shermer that many of you will have already seen. But it seems to apply to the fuzzy thinking going on in this thread .

Maybe they should call it dope-amine.
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Per my description of humans as pattern-seeking, storytelling animals. Only
some are more pattern-seeking than others, even when there is no pattern to
be found, and now it looks like we have an additional causal variable in
explaining why that is.

Paranormal beliefs linked to brain chemistry

New Scientist 24 July 02

Whether or not you believe in the paranormal may depend entirely on your
brain chemistry. People with high levels of dopamine are more likely to find
significance in coincidences, and pick out meaning and patterns where there
are none.

Peter Brugger, a neurologist from the University Hospital in Zurich,
Switzerland, has suggested before that people who believe in the paranormal
often seem to be more willing to see patterns or relationships between events
where sceptics perceive nothing.

To find out what could be triggering these thoughts, Brugger persuaded 20
self-confessed believers and 20 sceptics to take part in an experiment.

Brugger and his colleagues asked the two groups to distinguish real faces
from scrambled faces as the images were flashed up briefly on a screen. The
volunteers then did a similar task, this time identifying real words from
made-up ones.

Seeing and believing

Believers were much more likely than sceptics to see a word or face when
there was not one, Brugger revealed last week at a meeting of the Federation
of European Neuroscience Societies in Paris. However, sceptics were more
likely to miss real faces and words when they appeared on the screen.

The researchers then gave the volunteers a drug called L-dopa, which is
usually used to relieve the symptoms of Parkinson's disease by increasing
levels of dopamine in the brain.

Both groups made more mistakes under the influence of the drug, but the
sceptics became more likely to interpret scrambled words or faces as the real
thing.

That suggests that paranormal thoughts are associated with high levels of
dopamine in the brain, and the L-dopa makes sceptics less sceptical.
"Dopamine seems to help people see patterns," says Brugger.

Plateau effect

However, the single dose of the drug did not seem to increase the tendency of
believers to see coincidences or relationships between the words and images.

That could mean that there is a plateau effect for them, with more dopamine
having relatively little effect above a certain threshold, says Peter
Krummenacher, one of Brugger's colleagues.

Dopamine is an important chemical involved in the brain's reward and
motivation system, and in addiction. Its role in the reward system may be to
help us decide whether information is relevant or irrelevant, says Franse
Schenk from the University of Lausanne in Switzerland.

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My business is to teach my aspirations to conform themselves to fact, not to try and make facts harmonize with my aspirations. ---Thomas Henry Huxley, 1860
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NubiWan
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Posted - 08/13/2002 :  20:48:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send NubiWan a Private Message
Still "no beef," shocked, just shocked.

"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities." -Voltaire
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