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Slater
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Posted - 08/01/2002 :  08:24:27  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
http://www.nebraskaatheists.org/article1.htm

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Lisa
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Posted - 08/01/2002 :  09:29:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Umm, right.
Do you know if any of these have ever been challenged? I'm curious, since there are so many archaic state laws still on the books.

We have enough youth. We need a fountain of smart.
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Tokyodreamer
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Posted - 08/01/2002 :  09:50:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tokyodreamer a Private Message
Alabama isn't on the list?! That's a change...

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Chippewa
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Posted - 08/01/2002 :  10:13:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message
Many of these articles read as if they were written in the 18th century. (I know they weren't!) Apparently Vikings who worship Odin (if any could be found,) can run for office in these States (except in Massachusetts, where they are not equal under the law along with Jewish, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and Atheists.) I suppose Agnostics can only run for office on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Saturdays? Gad Zooks!

"Speaking without thinking like shooting without aiming." - Charlie Chan

Edited by - chippewa on 08/01/2002 10:42:32
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Donnie B.
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Posted - 08/01/2002 :  15:36:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Donnie B. a Private Message
Dang, you mean I can't run for Lt. Gov. of South Carolina, then (rubs his evil atheistic hands together) liquidate the Gov. and take over?

Shucks, there goes my whole plan.

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Trish
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Posted - 08/01/2002 :  22:23:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
Hmm, they only found 7 state constitutions that are discriminatory? Wow, Dr Eller here in denver has a list of 21 or 23 (I can't remember) state constitutions that are discriminatory against atheists, or require a belief in something supernatural for office. I kinda thought that was unconstitutional.

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@tomic
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Posted - 08/01/2002 :  22:46:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
Kinda unconstitutional yes but as we have seen a fair number of Americans think the Declaration of Independence is a legal document Hell, after a few lines our President thinks he can quiz prospects for federal judge positions on their religious beliefs crazy as that might sound.



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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/02/2002 :  12:53:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:

Umm, right.
Do you know if any of these have ever been challenged? I'm curious, since there are so many archaic state laws still on the books.

We have enough youth. We need a fountain of smart.



They have. These parts are, of course, unConstitutional under Article VI, paragraph 3.

Maryland's proscription was challenged successfully in TORCASO v. WATKINS, 367 U.S. 488 (1961).

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=367&invol=488

In which it says

"Appellant was appointed by the Governor of Maryland to the office of Notary Public; but he was denied a commission because he would not declare his belief in God, as required by the Maryland Constitution. Claiming that this requirement violated his rights under the First and Fourteenth Amendments, he sued in a state court to compel issuance of his commission; but relief was denied. The State Court of Appeals affirmed, holding that the state constitutional provision is self-executing without need for implementing legislation and requires declaration of a belief in God as a qualification for office. Held: This Maryland test for public office cannot be enforced against appellant, because it unconstitutionally invades his freedom of belief and religion guaranteed by the First Amendment and protected by the Fourteenth Amendment from infringement by the States. Pp. 489-496.

223 Md. 49, 162 A. 2d 438, reversed. "



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Tim
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Posted - 08/05/2002 :  03:13:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tim a Private Message
I'm with Tokyo. For once Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana and Arkansas isn't among the infamous. But, don't tell those state legislators. They don't need any new ideas.

"Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals--the two things seem to go together."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 1/21/93
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