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Deborah
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USA
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 Posted - 10/13/2002 : 02:01:16 [Permalink]
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Why is everyone so upset by what's going on over there when dozens of people die everyday, in violent situations?
I think because we don't expect to be taken out filling up our tank at the Texaco!
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Sorry Deb but cameras, PLEASE! ...There's another folder on this site, I believe where the subject of cameras has already been debated, should we switch this part over there?
Yeah yeah yeah - I vaguely remember that folder. A camera may have caught the tags of vehicle perhaps. Anyway, I'm all for cameras..even if it means I would have to drive the speed limit and quit running red lights. And I will leave it at that so as not to derail the conversation.
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LordofEntropy
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 10/13/2002 : 15:44:02 [Permalink]
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Don't confuse .22 with a .223 =)
Althought they are basically the same caliber the .223 has ALOT more kick than a .22.
The .223(5.56mm) is a highpower round.The reason it is found in the body opposed to on the street is that .223 likes to tumble and will "bounce" around inside someone as opposed to penetrate(AP rounds excepted).
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Kilted_Warrior
Skeptic Friend
Canada
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Posted - 10/14/2002 : 17:51:29 [Permalink]
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I'm watching the ABC special, and from what they've said, I'm 75% sure that the sniper has an accomplice and they're probably parking the truck somewhere, with the driver in front, and the shooter in the back, then opening the back door a slit, then waiting for someone to come into their sites, closing the door and driving away before anyone knows what happened. These people are pros, and may have found the secret to killing without getting caught. What is going to happen will be one of two things:
1. He'll get careless and get caught
2. He'll decide enough is enough and disappear
The way police are talking, he'll get caught.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 10/14/2002 : 18:52:00 [Permalink]
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Why is everyone so upset by what's going on over there when dozens of people die everyday, in violent situations?
I think because we don't expect to be taken out filling up our tank at the Texaco!
Poe, I know you don't live in the Boondocks, so maybe it's an L.A. thing but that doesn't seem like an unusual thing to not worry about. Just getting into ones car safely without having a gun pointed at you, is a big deal here.
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Sorry Deb but cameras, PLEASE! ...There's another folder on this site, I believe where the subject of cameras has already been debated, should we switch this part over there?
Yeah yeah yeah - I vaguely remember that folder. A camera may have caught the tags of vehicle perhaps. Anyway, I'm all for cameras..even if it means I would have to drive the speed limit and quit running red lights. And I will leave it at that so as not to derail the conversation.
Alright, I understand. Whatever was said about the pros and cons is in that folder.
Forgot to add, yes that's a good point about getting a license # but, to catch one criminal is IMO not worth giving up everyones' privacy, forever. Because once the cameras are in they will stay and then what's next? Or in other words, one could say, 'what price freedom?'. However, I don't have a problem with a business owner using a camera.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2002 : 19:22:19 [Permalink]
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I'm watching the ABC special, and from what they've said, I'm 75% sure that the sniper has an accomplice and they're probably parking the truck somewhere, with the driver in front, and the shooter in the back, then opening the back door a slit, then waiting for someone to come into their sites, closing the door and driving away before anyone knows what happened. These people are pros, and may have found the secret to killing without getting caught. What is going to happen will be one of two things:
1. He'll get careless and get caught
2. He'll decide enough is enough and disappear
This is a good example of why I don't listen to media stories like that, you are doing the same thing. Speculating!
I don't see the point of it.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/15/2002 : 02:15:05 [Permalink]
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Don't confuse .22 with a .223 =)
Althought they are basically the same caliber the .223 has ALOT more kick than a .22.
The .223(5.56mm) is a highpower round.The reason it is found in the body opposed to on the street is that .223 likes to tumble and will "bounce" around inside someone as opposed to penetrate(AP rounds excepted).
Entropy just isn't what it used to be.
Exactly right, LoE.
The .223 is an excellent, little cartridge. It's bullet is light and fast, and highly accurate in the right firearm. It's recoil is modest. The military uses it in the M-16. For sporting, it is used for everything from woodchucks to deer, although it is a bit light for this last IMO. This sad, sick, sorry sonofabitch could scarcly have picked a better (worse) tool.
I am guessing that the rifle is a bolt-action (the bolt must be worked by hand between rounds). Reason is a lack of spent cases at the sites. Semi-autos tend to throw brass everywhere and the sniper would waste a lot of time hunting the case. This is the most accurate of the rifles, due to their chambers being tighter.
A bummer anyway you cut it.
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Jimmy_Reynolds
New Member
USA
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Posted - 10/15/2002 : 19:36:50 [Permalink]
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The most recent victim was an FBI intelligence analyst:
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20021015_1247.html
Conspiracy theorists were already coming out of the woodwork attempting to prove that the selection of victims is not, in fact, random. This is a hard sell, since the victims were a very diverse group. To conspiracists, this is evidence of how large the conspiracy is, and not of random selection.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 10/15/2002 : 21:03:45 [Permalink]
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The most recent victim was an FBI intelligence analyst:
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20021015_1247.html
Conspiracy theorists were already coming out of the woodwork attempting to prove that the selection of victims is not, in fact, random. This is a hard sell, since the victims were a very diverse group. To conspiracists, this is evidence of how large the conspiracy is, and not of random selection.
Perhaps not a conspiracy but what about a simple plot? The killer only wanted to get one of the victoms but had to murder others to take away clues that would lead to him other wise.
I saw that somewhere in a movie or one of the many murder mysteries I watch.
Hey! It's just as valid as any or the other explanations we are hearing. Middle East terrorists....really!!!
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Kilted_Warrior
Skeptic Friend
Canada
118 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2002 : 19:08:35 [Permalink]
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One of the possibilities I thought about is, if the remote possibility he had an accomplice, that, the sniper hides somewhere in the bushes, while is equally twisted friend sits in the vehicle and waits for the shot, he shoots, the driver speeds away, whilst the sniper sneeks off to a safe place or whatever, JUST TO THROW OFF THE COPS.
If the sniper now has any shred of sense in him, he would change vehicles and get a car, rather keep the infamous white van.
Just a couple of remote thoughts that probably aren't true but I was bored in class today, and needed something to do...
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