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ConsequentAtheist
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Posted - 12/12/2002 :  15:15:23  Show Profile Send ConsequentAtheist a Private Message
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For the philosophical naturalist, the rejection of supernaturalism is a case of "death by a thousand cuts." -- Barbara Forrest, Ph.D.

filthy
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Posted - 12/12/2002 :  15:24:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Begging forgivness RD, but I'm not sure understand the quote. I would think that the loss of belief in the supernatural would be the healing of the 1000 cuts.

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ConsequentAtheist
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Posted - 12/12/2002 :  15:34:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ConsequentAtheist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

Begging forgivness RD, but I'm not sure understand the quote.
I guess I don't understand what you don't understand. A more complete quote would be:
quote:
For the philosophical naturalist, the rejection of supernaturalism is a case of "death by a thousand cuts." ...

The known world expands, and the world of impenetrable mystery shrinks. With every expanse, something is explained which at an earlier point in history had been permanently consigned to supernatural mystery or metaphysical speculation. And the expansion of scientific knowledge has been and remains an epistemological threat to any claims which have been fashioned independently (or in defiance) of such knowledge. We are confronted with an asymptotic decrease in the existential possibility of the supernatural to the point at which it is wholly negligible.

Methodological Naturalism and Philosophical Naturalism: Clarifying the Connection, by Doctor Barbara Forrest
It's one of my favorites.

For the philosophical naturalist, the rejection of supernaturalism is a case of "death by a thousand cuts." -- Barbara Forrest, Ph.D.
Edited by - ConsequentAtheist on 12/12/2002 15:35:24
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Legallee Insane
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Posted - 12/12/2002 :  22:44:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Legallee Insane a Private Message
Tell me, did you post this specifically so Fireballn could have a look at that site?

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ConsequentAtheist
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Posted - 12/13/2002 :  06:59:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ConsequentAtheist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Legallee Insane

Tell me, did you post this specifically so Fireballn could have a look at that site?
No.

My issue with Fireballn had to do with what I found to be a sloppy and misplaced use of terms like "theory" and "proof". Note that the following suffers, perhaps, from some of the same problems:
quote:
Previously posted by Legallee Insane

In all the proof and evidence and data that I have ever read about supporting these two theories is information that makes perfect sense, but nowhere in any of that information did I ever see any claims that it was the absolute truth. I'd say that these theories have been proven to about 98% (only because of lack of witness), which is better than other theories like creationism that have been proven to about 0%.
And I'm sure I could find problems with some of my own posts if I were to take the time to search for them. Because the vernacular is pervasive, all of us need a refresher course now and then.

For the philosophical naturalist, the rejection of supernaturalism is a case of "death by a thousand cuts." -- Barbara Forrest, Ph.D.
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