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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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 Posted - 07/01/2003 : 12:51:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Snake
I just took an on line survey that was asking what kind of vehicles people drive, the results were:
over 50% of people drive regular cars and between vans and those dumb ass giant rude things called suv's the %age was about the same, approx. 13% each and people who use mass transit just slightly lower. So I was thinking, why do we see so many of those disgusting road hog, gas wasting, ugly monster things(suv) on the streets?
What do you drive:
(will the price of gas or concern about the environment change what you buy in the future?)
Car
Truck
Van
Motorcycle
Bicycle
suv
Public Transportation
I'm surprized I hadn't responded sooner than this.
I take public transportation. Which means I drive a 93 Olds Delta 88 to the station. Climb into a passenger rail car pushed by a F40C engine and then transfer to a Bluebird bus.
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2003 : 13:22:11 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Snake
What do you drive:
(will the price of gas or concern about the environment change what you buy in the future?)
Car * Truck * Van * Motorcycle* Bicycle * suv * Public Transportation
Hi Snake--
I drive a Honda Civic. The choice was made partly on price, partly on the reliability of the car, but also partly on the great mpg that it gets. Six years later, nothing has made me change my opinion about the car, and I expect that when it comes time to get a new one I'll stick with the Honda. |
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Computer Org
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 07/19/2003 : 06:19:57 [Permalink]
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I was in this forum to FINALLY commit myself on the Iraqi poll when I recalled two posts that I had made to this thread. Firstly, there was:quote:
Originally posted by Computer Org
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Originally posted by Tokyodreamer on 04/08/03:
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Should we look at an SUV driver, scowl, and think "What an asshole!"
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Yes! YES!! YES!!!
Ahhhh. But then there was also this:
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Originally posted by Computer Org
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Originally posted by Dave W. on 04/11/03:
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This guy's suggestion for safer driving was to get rid of the air bags, and replace them with big steel spikes sticking out of the middle of the steering wheel (which would basically point right at the driver's heart).
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Ahhhhh. Great personal contentment! What wonders a simple but well-thought-out suggestion can bring to an otherwise hot, damp, sticky day. Ahhhhh! A wonderful post.
Now while these two posts speak for themselves, it is worth noting that if there were no SUVs being driven (--if we all just drove small, fuel-efficient transport--) then we wouldn't have needed Iraqi oil and so we wouldn't have needed to invade Iraq.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 07/19/2003 : 07:18:32 [Permalink]
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Thinkin' 'bout some new wheels:
A '52 Ford PU with a mildly tuned, small-block, Chevy V8. The guy who has it has owed me $$$ for some time, and he sez he might deal for that and my race bike. It's a neat little rod, and I can't race the scooter any more. My daughter wants my current pickup and my old Blazer is finally running dependably. I'd have time to really make it sweet.
We'll see.
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2003 : 13:09:09 [Permalink]
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| Filthy, what's up with your vintage motorcycles you have listed on your bio? My old BMW R100/7 ('78) isn't quite vintage, but it's the closest thing I got. Had it the past 13 years. Still put a few thousand on it every year doing short cruises on the weekends. Too hot for it now, here in Tejas. |
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"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2003 : 19:01:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Randy
Filthy, what's up with your vintage motorcycles you have listed on your bio? My old BMW R100/7 ('78) isn't quite vintage, but it's the closest thing I got. Had it the past 13 years. Still put a few thousand on it every year doing short cruises on the weekends. Too hot for it now, here in Tejas.
The '46 Flatrat is the ride they'll bury me with. Believe it or not, it hasn't been washed in well over 20 years and won't get washed in another 20, if I live that long.
Odd that you should ask. Just today, I was offered a '55 Panhead in a basket. One of the club members has it, and I'm really torn. I want it, but due to health problems, I might not be able to start it once I have it back together. It's hard enough to crank the Flatty, at a mere 6:1 compression. The Pan is a stroker that needs a good leg. Dollars are also a factor. Dunno, dunno, dunno.
Keep that Beemer. Those are good rides and you'd never replace it for what you'd get out of it. Rebuild it when it needs it, and stay in the wind. Me, I have little interest in new iron. Don't ask me why, I couldn't tell you.
Pretty warm here too, but nothing like y'all are getting. I'm currently not riding at all due to, again, bum legs. I hope they'll get good enough pretty soon. Wanted to make Sturgis this year, but it ain't gonna happen. Bummer.
Hang in, bro. soon enough, we'll all be bitching about how cold it is.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 07/19/2003 : 23:00:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
if I live that long.
Let's not be negative. quote:
Odd that you should ask. Just today, I was offered a '55 Panhead in a basket. One of the club members has it, and I'm really torn. I want it, but due to health problems, I might not be able to start it once I have it back together. It's hard enough to crank the Flatty, at a mere 6:1 compression. The Pan is a stroker that needs a good leg. Dollars are also a factor. Dunno, dunno, dunno.
Although there's the practical side. I'd say go for it. Ya never know. Gota have some fun in life or what's it worth?
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Keep that Beemer. Those are good rides and you'd never replace it for what you'd get out of it.
 Well, there is some truth to that but I guess we don't want to get into a debate over Hogs vs. anything else.
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Me, I have little interest in new iron. Don't ask me why, I couldn't tell you.
If you'd have bought HDI the stock instead of the bike, you wouldn't be saying that.
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Pretty warm here too, but nothing like y'all are getting. I'm currently not riding at all due to, again, bum legs. I hope they'll get good enough pretty soon. Wanted to make Sturgis this year, but it ain't gonna happen. Bummer.
Keep the Faith, baby. You'll make it.(getting your leg better)
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2003 : 14:00:24 [Permalink]
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Fact is, Snake, I quit being concerned about what someone else rides a couple of decades or more ago. If yer happy with yer ride, I'm happy for ya!
The pickup deal fell through this morning with some hard feelings on both ends, but I've gotten the money owed, if the check is good. 'Nuff said.
I'm still agonizing over the Pan. I really can't afford it, but whaddahell. Ya goes around once. The brother who has it sez he'll hold it until my money is right. As to the stroker mill, I'll tear it down and bring the compression to probably about 7:1, and it should be easier to get along with. I'll also re-cam it to a stock FLH. It'll still be a big-inch engine, but more managable for an old cripple.
The problem with Sturgis is that I can't seem to shake loose from Buffalo Gap. The last time I was there, I never made the rally. I spent the whole time partying with the VVMC and being obnoxious in Hot Springs. Had a blast.
But alas, not this year. 
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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Snake
SFN Addict
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Posted - 07/20/2003 : 17:46:37 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Fact is, Snake, I quit being concerned about what someone else rides a couple of decades or more ago. If yer happy with yer ride, I'm happy for ya!
Filthy, you're a bigger man than I.
I may not be loyal to my spouse, but I fell in love with Harley all those many years ago and could never be with another.
PS. I'm going to email you with a personal story about not being able to ride. Might make you feel better. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2003 : 18:53:24 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Snake
quote:
Originally posted by filthy
Fact is, Snake, I quit being concerned about what someone else rides a couple of decades or more ago. If yer happy with yer ride, I'm happy for ya!
Filthy, you're a bigger man than I.
I may not be loyal to my spouse, but I fell in love with Harley all those many years ago and could never be with another.
PS. I'm going to email you with a personal story about not being able to ride. Might make you feel better.
Oh, I feel ok about it. Come next April, I'll have been riding Harlys for half a century -- told ya, I'm an old fart. I'm an old fart who's had a lot of joy and a lot of miles. No regrets.
If worst goes to truly bad, I'll put the Flatty in a Servicar frame (we'll build it). Might get a ride with a pussy button electric starter, or set the Pan (assuming) up with one.
That's the great thing about old Harleys. If you don't like what you have, it can be easily changed.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Chippewa
SFN Regular
USA
1496 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2003 : 19:53:21 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Snake
What do you drive:
(will the price of gas or concern about the environment change what you buy in the future?)
Cars? Who me?
I was spoiled aesthetically on cars early on. My dad was an MG and Jaguar fan. (Though we were by no means rich folks. My dad was just good at restoring cars.) In the 1950s and 60s we had several MG TDs at different times, as well as a Hillman “Minx” and an Austin Healey. Jags included (at different times) 3.0 Liter sedan, XK-E 2x2, and an XK 150. Also, as I was growing up, an English Ford “Zodiac” (which was a very hot car believe it or not,) and some really weird vehicles: Renault “Fluoride” (known as the Caravel in the USA – beautiful, but a poor handler.)
My first car: Crosley “Hot Shot” which my Dad got me as a kid to learn about automobiles. First car that I drove and dated girls in – 1969 Chevelle “Malibu.” (Which I customized by painting metallic gray, with chrome piping around the side windows and wheel wells.) Car I most lusted after growing up: 1959 Maserati 3500 GT, which a friend of ours drove. (Picture a Ford Thunderbird redesigned by Satan.) Very cool, seductive, and a bit scary. I liked the way the rear fenders were flush riveted in aircraft style, and the engine sounded quite magical. Then there was a black Moto Guzzi motorcycle we owned for a while. That was a heavy ride.
Current car: 1972 BMW 3.0 CS Coupe – Cobalt blue. Dual Weber carbs, leather seats, wood dash. Manual four-speed gearbox.
Alternate transportation: BikeE recumbent bicycle. The “Model T” of recumbent bikes, and a lot of fun. You sit up like in a car, but it's a two wheeled bicycle. Its slanted down to give you the Dennis Hopper chopper look (for a bike.) Coolest bike I know of. Easy on the back too.
Daily “practical” car: 1986 Acura Integra hatchback.
SUVs? Hate ‘em. They are ugly metal/plastic boxes. In an unreal fair world I'd say the only people who should own them are:
Old folks who need vehicles that are easy to get in and out of, and offer good visibility in traffic. (Which they do.)
Folks who lead Cub Scout troops, Brownies, Little League, or other teams and organizations, etc..
Amateur astronomers who need to haul large telescopes. (Though I'm one, and don't need an SUV.)
People who own flower shops, or deliver stuff.
People who live on farms, or up in the Rockies and need a good four wheel drive vehicle. (A real truck is better.)
In future: Would like to own a practical electric car that looks cool and isn't a flimsy toy. More American cities should be organized so that a car is only really necessary for out-of-town driving, and public transportation is easiest and cheapest for in-the-city. Then people can collect rare old exotic cars and motorcycles or drive more highly individualized new car designs.
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Snake
SFN Addict
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Posted - 07/20/2003 : 21:10:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Chippewa
Car I most lusted after growing up: 1959 Maserati 3500 GT,
Hum! I guess that's ok. My dream car is and always has been a Corvette. sigh Loved them even before I knew what a motorcycle was. Someday, my dream might/will come true.
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Current car: 1972 BMW 3.0 CS Coupe – Cobalt blue. Dual Weber carbs, leather seats
Leather seats.....YUK! My son's father wanted a car that only came in leather seats but I insisted that we get the model lower down that came with cloth. So I now drive a Toyota Camray (great car). My son however, against my wishes bought that other car and now drives a Toyota Lexis (dumb ass car), YUK! I rode in it once, not impressed, the leather seats are sickening.
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SUVs? Hate ‘em. They are ugly metal/plastic boxes. In an unreal fair world I'd say the only people who should own them are:
Old folks who need vehicles that are easy to get in and out of, and offer good visibility in traffic.
I more than hate them. They are dangerous as well as ugly. The only people I think drive them are illegal aliens and women who talk on the phone all day.
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In future: Would like to own a practical electric car that looks cool and isn't a flimsy toy. More American cities should be organized so that a car is only really necessary for out-of-town driving, and public transportation is easiest and cheapest for in-the-city. Then people can collect rare old exotic cars and motorcycles or drive more highly individualized new car designs.
I'm thinking of getting one of those hybreads. I don't care if I can go 0-60 in 5 sec. or even that it will go 50 miles an hour if I'm just using it for errands and ordinary driving.
If you want to know the reason why we don't have practical cars watch the movie 'Who Killed Roger Rabit'. It might be a comedy film but it's based on facts. That's the reason we don't have mass transportation anymore. (PBS did a documentary on the same topic (car and tire companies getting rid of public transportation) but I don't know the name of it) 'Chinatown' is another that exposes the corruption in government. |
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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
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Posted - 07/20/2003 : 22:53:07 [Permalink]
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Instead of explaining, I'd thought I'd put some pics up...
Not my exact car, but the same color and model....
I travelled around Australia in one of these in the mid 1990's. 20,000 miles in 2 years (yep, the speedo was still in miles).
General Moters - Holden HQ, 1973 model. Australian built 5.0 litre V8, 308 cubes, duel fuel and a matress in the back.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 07/20/2003 : 23:35:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by gezzam
Now I drive a little Ford Laser, a 1.8 litre buzzbox, great car, cheap to run. But I miss my old baby.
Time was, when a wagon like that would have been made fun of instead of the truck things, (as I call them, others say suv) of today. Housewives with kids drove those things years ago. But the mattres in the back sounds good.
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