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Boron10
Religion Moderator

USA
1266 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2001 :  03:49:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Boron10 a Private Message
quote:
Snake:
(and if Kil is reading this, shut up)

Hmmm. What about me? Can I say something? Not that I actually have a response....
quote:
Slater:
Things like NAMBLA ... may one day soon be normal?

The National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?

Not all change is progress.
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Snake
SFN Addict

USA
2511 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2001 :  13:26:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
quote:

quote:
Snake:
(and if Kil is reading this, shut up)

Hmmm. What about me? Can I say something? Not that I actually have a response....

Sure, Tim. You are not your fathers keeper.
quote:

quote:
Slater:
Things like NAMBLA ... may one day soon be normal?

The National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?


ROFLOL
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Slater
SFN Regular

USA
1668 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2001 :  15:58:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
quote:
The National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes?


ROFLOL
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That's another South Park reference, Snake. You really have to break down and buy cable.

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The brain that was stolen from my laboratory was a criminal brain. Only evil will come from it.
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Slater
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USA
1668 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2001 :  19:28:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
Yap, pretty much(anything goes). I see nothing wrong with necrophilism, you're the one who wrote that story about the doctor, didn't you?
What I was doing was trying to show that somewhere in the divergent forms of human sexuality one can cross the line into insanity. By telling this story I had hoped that I had gone so far past that line that there would be a mutual agreement that at least the line existed. You can deviate far enough from the social norms to be a deviant. Once that was established I had hoped to lead the discussion to consider just where that line is. (I know Orpheus and I are not in accord on this one).
Now I find myself talking to someone who thinks that dressing like Mickey Mouse in Fantasia make him a fashion trend setter. And that screwing a rotting corpse is just fine.

The jokes on me.

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Snake
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USA
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Posted - 07/24/2001 :  20:24:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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That's another South Park reference, Snake. You really have to break down and buy cable.


When the movie came out, the ads didn't seem like something I'd want to see so I doubt I'd care for that show. Most of what I see that's on cable is nothing I'd either be interested in seeing or have time for. When I was in Oregon last year I got to watch my cousins cable. Old shows of 'Murder She Wrote', 'Mattlock', and 'Law and Order' a treat to be sure but if I had cable and got to see those shows all the time, I would be in the house all day, eating popcorn and drinking soda. LOL. We can't have that now can we?
Thanks anyway.
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Snake
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Posted - 07/24/2001 :  20:35:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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Now I find myself talking to someone who thinks that dressing like Mickey Mouse in Fantasia make him a fashion trend setter.


WOW! How perceptive of you. That's the example I always use when I try to tell people what my hats look like. You knew without me saying this time. Slater, I like your brain.
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Deborah
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USA
113 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2001 :  20:15:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Deborah a Private Message
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That's BANSHEE Deb. It means a "woman (ban) of the Sidhe (pronounced she. The Sidhe are the Fairy folk which leads us back to this conversation.


Touchy! Or is that Touchie? Or maybe Touche?

I can see the relevence that having sex with corpses has in this forum.

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Deborah
Skeptic Friend

USA
113 Posts

Posted - 07/28/2001 :  20:20:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Deborah a Private Message
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if I had cable and got to see those shows all the time, I would be in the house all day


Good for you Snake, I'm cable free too. Speaking about rotting corpses....try getting cable!

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Snake
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2511 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2001 :  02:26:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
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quote:

if I had cable and got to see those shows all the time, I would be in the house all day


Good for you Snake, I'm cable free too. Speaking about rotting corpses....try getting cable!




LOL


Hi 5 Poe.

VHEMT
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tergiversant
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USA
284 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2001 :  09:27:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tergiversant's Homepage  Send tergiversant a Yahoo! Message Send tergiversant a Private Message
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At the risk of stating the obvious, for non-critical thinkers, the use of convenient categories often simplifies issues that are otherwise frighteningly intractable and complex. The non-critical thinker seeks to make sense of a world that is often beyond his/her understanding. This may be especially true of sexuality, where so much of a person's identity and status are connected to how they identify themselves sexually.

Critical thinking often involves the acceptance of ambiguity and sometimes requires the courage to say "we just don't know". This offends the non-critical thinker because it undermines their desperate efforts to achieve certaintly where none exists.



Damn straight (pun intended).

The problem of oversimplfying dichotomies apllies to all sorts of concepts in our everydays lives in addition to sexuality:

white/black (race esp. in the U.S.)
nature/nurture (evol. psych vs. folk psych)
human/inhuman (fetal development) human/inhuman (evolutionary anthropology)
science/religion (metaphysics)
moral/immoral (ethics)

Many people suffer from a severe form of categorical diphilia, they love lumping everything into two simple bins. Evidently the world just isn't like that, and we have to think a bit harder about such things. What a bummer for those that disdain critical thinking...

"Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione."
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Orpheus
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92 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2001 :  10:37:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Orpheus a Private Message
Yep, there seems to be 2 kinds of people..
Those who think there are two kinds of people and those who don't...



Find your own damned answers!
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Greg
Skeptic Friend

USA
281 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2001 :  11:23:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Greg an AOL message Send Greg a Private Message
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Many people suffer from a severe form of categorical diphilia, they love lumping everything into two simple bins. Evidently the world just isn't like that, and we have to think a bit harder about such things. What a bummer for those that disdain critical thinking...


There are those who consider critical thought regarding important issues to be synonymous with fear of "taking a stand" or not being able to make up ones mind. I've heard people insult intellegent dialogue as an excuse to hide ones real opinion. Pretty sad.

Greg.

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ljbrs
SFN Regular

USA
842 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2001 :  00:00:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ljbrs a Private Message
Perhaps there aren't any solutions, regardless of how may categories one selects. All of the categories will have flaws somewhere. To find agreement we would have to eliminate a portion of each category, thereby distorting the result.

I think that if everybody, as individuals, thought about things and ideas, there would be as many new ideas as there were individuals considering the data to be studied. At least, everybody would either be attempting to kill everybody else, or, on the other hand, everybody might just find agreement in no agreement.

Being an individual does not mean thinking differently from everybody else. However, being an individual does mean thinking for oneself after viewing all of the possibilities.

Working with groups is easier, because nobody needs to do any thinking other than the WISE LEADER (a/k/a DICTATOR).

Therefore, if everybody thought for himself, herself, or itself, perhaps everybody could agree to disagree and hang up his/her/its weaponry and go happily on his/her/its own way QUIETLY...

Fat chance of that...

ljbrs

Perfection Is a State of Growth...
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