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Cold in here
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Posted - 06/10/2003 :  12:05:27  Show Profile Send Cold in here a Private Message
Why is it that so many people abuse alcohol? I mean I saw a woman spill an entire glass of Gin & Tonic. Okay, seriously though: doesn't it seem as though younger people are drinking alcohol at younger ages than ever? I saw kids if no more than twelve drinking and smoking in a park one night, it's scary.

Toronto is the capital of Canada, and I live in a giant igloo. Blubber anyone?

LordofEntropy
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Posted - 06/10/2003 :  16:29:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit LordofEntropy's Homepage Send LordofEntropy a Private Message
Probably because the Tobacco and Alcohol companies, along with the government don't view those products as "drugs". "Drugs" are naturally outlawed, so legal substances such as alcohol and tobacco must be okay!

Entropy just isn't what it used to be.
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Snake
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Posted - 06/10/2003 :  18:40:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cold in here

Why is it that so many people abuse alcohol? I mean I saw a woman spill an entire glass of Gin & Tonic. Okay, seriously though: doesn't it seem as though younger people are drinking alcohol at younger ages than ever? I saw kids if no more than twelve drinking and smoking in a park one night, it's scary.


I don't think it's any different than when I was in Jr. or Sr. high school. It's the 'cool' thing to do. The so called 'peer presure'. I never understood that, and why one has a need to fit in or do what someone else is doing.....just because, without thinking.
As long as it's the popular thing to do, for adults or anyone, it's not going to stop. I truly believe that many people drink, not because they really like to, but because they are afraid to say they don't want a drink when ofered, or at a party where everyone else is drinking.
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 06/27/2003 :  07:33:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cold in here

Why is it that so many people abuse alcohol? I mean I saw a woman spill an entire glass of Gin & Tonic. Okay, seriously though: doesn't it seem as though younger people are drinking alcohol at younger ages than ever? I saw kids if no more than twelve drinking and smoking in a park one night, it's scary.



Well, perhaps in Canada they start drinking at twelve, but here in the States, that's just not the case. In the States, they start at ten.
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gezzam
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Australia
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Posted - 06/27/2003 :  09:40:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit gezzam's Homepage Send gezzam a Private Message
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I truly believe that many people drink, not because they really like to, but because they are afraid to say they don't want a drink when offered, or at a party where everyone else is drinking.


From my experience it depends on environment. When I was a single fella playing football I consumed huge amounts of alcohol. I reckon half the money I earnt playing I gave handed back over the bar at the footy club. You are around a heavy drinking culture and you tend to "get on it" more often. When training finishes Thursday Night, after the game on Saturday - well you have been running your tits off for two hours. Then after the Sunday jog to get rid of yesterdays aches, more beer and a BBQ (cookout I think you call it).......oh well, at least I was pretty fit.

Since I got married, I probably have a few drinks once a week. However when I do drink I still tend to give it a fairly good nudge. They say that two standard drinks a day is good for you. I just prefer to squeeze my weekly quota into one night.

Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least, others can learn from.

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Tim
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Posted - 06/27/2003 :  12:08:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tim a Private Message
I'm with Gez, although I don't think we played the same kind of football. In my younger days, I played in an organized flag football league, a bowling league, and a softball league. Generally, prizes for extraordinary performance were 12 packs or cases of Bud. We even had beer drinking trophies during tournaments. One weekend, we won both the tournament and the beer drinking trophy. Now, that was an amazing feat, (or a comment on just how bad the other teams really were).

Today, I drink more than just one alcohol beverage only on every other Sunday. That's when we go to Baton Rouge for the weekly Blues jam.

Plus, I don't think much has changed concerning kids. Alcohol and other drugs seem to be used heavily in cyclical periods of increased and decreased use. I was 12 in '71, and had already been quite used to drinking wine and beer and smoking grass. Even though I had older brothers and sisters, many of my peers were as experienced as I was. This was no big deal at that time. In the '80's, there was some change, but I wouldn't call it a great change.

"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their -- their love with women all across this country." Dubya in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 9/6/2004
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