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the_ignored
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  18:07:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Heh. You want some comedy? Check out where I found that article posted.

I like their reactions.

http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=1227215#post1227215

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  18:15:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
The cowardly SOB's. They moved the post to a "members only" area, and banned me!

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  18:37:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
So how many times have you been banned from RR now?

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the_ignored
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  18:50:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
This'll be 4 times altogether.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  18:56:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
And, on a relevant note:

quote:
From my frame of thinking it is so obvious that the one true God of the Holy Bible exists that I don't feel it is badgering to support the truth on a secular message board. Now if someone comes to a Christian message board to try to change peoples belief in God When they know he exists I would consider that badgering.


I love the double-standard's justification here. I at least know that what I do on religous boards IS badgering. Also, hopefully a little persuading.

Then there's the assumption that atheists "know God exists"!
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=1216938#post1216938

Anyway, this may give an insight as to why they come here, and get so mad when we go there.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  19:13:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
I like the mixed-up capitalization in the last half of the last quoted sentence, too.

That atheists know God exists isn't an assumption on that poster's part: it's the plain and simple Truth-with-a-capital-T, I'm sure. Everybody knows that "the one true God" exists, even those heathen Buddhists. Those pesky atheists say otherwise either because of Satan, or just to be contrary. Either way, they're goin' t'Hell.
quote:
...this may give an insight as to why they come here...
This is getting a bit far off for this thread, but out of curiosity, any idea how many have come here, specifically, from RR, specifically, and actually posted something here?

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the_ignored
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  19:22:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
I meant "they" in the general sense. Sorry for the confusion. I was just making a generalization as to the motives of all the religious people who come here.

On the other hand, I do know that "Magus55" from RR posts on Internet Infidels, and "billiefan2000" posts on JREF. Another guy, whose name I forget, used to post on "jewsforjudaism" talk board.

Then there's the many times on RR I hear of them bragging that they got booted off of other sites (never named, but most are described as Roman Catholic or Adventist sites).

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  19:48:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Nonono, I had a feeling you meant "they" generally, but I've also got a feeling that someone from RR follows their logs back to your links here, at least every once-in-a-while. That they haven't descended here en masse to take you to task is only a little surprising. Perhaps they are inobservant.

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tw101356
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Posted - 10/09/2003 :  21:09:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tw101356 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jmcginn

I think they are the WMD's that Bush can't find in Iraq, Saddam in his last days cleverly disguised them and had them shipped to Japan.



Wieners of Mass Delight?

TW

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filthy
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Posted - 10/10/2003 :  03:57:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I no longer bother to post on the so-called Christian boards. I end up catching too much illogical abuse. 'Though I must say that TheologyWeb has gotten interesting of late, as Glen Morton has joined Joe Meert, and some very knowledgable others, and are now making Sarfati, et. al., scramble. Makes good, if sometimes a little tedious (ya hear that, Socratism?), reading.

But, back to Phred's Phallic Phantasies:

I and others really have trouble taking this turkey seriously, and that is a mistake. It is exactly this sort of attitude that has led to the persecution of peoples throughout time, and indeed, led to the crucifiction of Christ himself. We are fortunate that he and those like him have as yet only a small influence. This can easily change and even appears to be doing so, here & there. More and more, we seem to be tolorating intolorance. I even see it here in the popularity of one of our revival preachers, a man not yet in Phelp's class, but working on it. I am saddened that some of my believer neighbors attend his rants (that's what they are!) whenever he hits town. I'm not sure he even has a congregation of his own -- just preaches by invitation. He even has a tent, and tent revivals are still very popular (and, I must admit, fun). I caught a piece of one of his sermons at one, but left before they passed the plate.

If these people gain much more power and influence than they already have, we're in trouble.

But back to Fearless Fred, the Footpad Dread (apologies to Walt Kelly): I have heard it said that if someone demonstrates a truely vitriolic hatred of something, that person is most likely "in the closet" and afraid to come out. Thus, he/she is torn between natural inclinations and massive guilt for feeling those inclinations. And, given a certain personality type, you end up with.... Fred.

I don't think that's entirely amature psycho-babble. You could also end up with Joe McCarthy, or similar.

So, which penis does Fred yearn so tragicly for that he'd build a monument to it? Having given the matter no thought at all, I've come up with, Matthew Shepard's. Who else?




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walt fristoe
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Posted - 10/10/2003 :  10:20:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send walt fristoe a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy


So, which penis does Fred yearn so tragicly for that he'd build a monument to it? Having given the matter no thought at all, I've come up with, Matthew Shepard's. Who else?





Yeah, maybe Shepard once spurned his advances in a men's room, or something.

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blues
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Posted - 10/11/2003 :  07:16:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send blues a Private Message
The courts can still be an effective weapon against Rev. Phelps.

Somebody in the Shepard family should've applied to trademark and reserve all the exclusive copyrights to all of Matthew's name, images, videos, etc. I remember Larry Flynt did this and so was able to sue Rev. Falwell for copyright violation. At the very least this could place a very serious dent on Rev. Phelps' schemes.

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filthy
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Posted - 10/11/2003 :  09:09:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Hi blues, and welcome to Septic Fiends!

yeah, yours is not a bad idea. Tie the bastard up in court until he croaks! Not too shabby at all, espeaclly if he hates courtrooms as much as I do (2 jury duties, one a rape trial and the other for a car thief. Have also been the defendant. Fuck courtrooms!).

Unfortunatly, in a hugely stressful time, such things are not thought of by most people. Larry Flint however, due to the business he's in, thinks of them all the time.

I wonder, is it too late to copywrite? Or failing that, would there be grounds for a slander suit?

Interesting thought.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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ktesibios
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Posted - 10/11/2003 :  11:46:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ktesibios a Private Message
IIRC, John Kobler's biography of Al Capone said that his widow, Mae, sucessfully sued the producers of the TV show "The Untouchables", on the grounds that they were using her late husband's name and likeness for commercial purposes.

Perhaps Phelps' use of Matthew Shepherd's name to promote his "church" is similarly actionable.

Revulsion for Phelps aside, there really oughta be a way to keep the names and likenesses of dead private citizens from being fair game for hucksters and fanatics.

"The Republican agenda is to turn the United States into a third-world shithole." -P.Z.Myers
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Tim
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Posted - 10/13/2003 :  12:47:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tim a Private Message
Even, I think, if someone manages to topple Phelps's homophobic fantasies in stone, this will be veiwed by his sheep as something like a victory. Just reading the thread at RR that The_ignored posted, it's easy to see how these people veiw themselves. They want to be martyrs. If they can't have their way, they become victims of persecution and intolerance.

Oh that devil...He always seems to be able to foil the plans of the righteous. He can wield more power than the omnipotent, and he can outsmart the omniscient.



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