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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2003 :  06:02:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
So, being rich is about working?

You're not as rich as Bill Gates, because Bill Gates works thousands of hours more a year than you do?

What do I think is rich? More than $20,000 a year in California. I don't know the number. You said that anyone could be rich, so you tell me. If you were rich and you wanted to go to Egypt, you'd go, I suppose. So maybe not everyone can be rich? Or maybe, everyone can be rich in the same way that everyone can win the lottery? Sure, there's a chance, but not likely unless you're born rich or at least on third base.

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If being rich is earning X amount of money per year then my answer would be....at this time of my life I do not choose to exert myself to that extent. I prefer to dwell in my garden and observe the flowers and birds or create works of art for my pleasure. I also have a new hobby that takes me on adventures of great fun, no time to make money.


I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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Renae
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543 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2003 :  07:31:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Renae a Private Message
To me, being rich is avoiding money anxiety. Rich is not worrying how you'll pay your bills. Having enough to own a home, because renting is an insecure way to live. Having enough $ in savings so that you're cushioned if something bad happens (like if the dog gets sick, if you need a brake job on the car, if you need to replace the roof on your house, etc.). And having enough $ to take one nice vacation every year.

We have a culture in the US called the working poor. Example: cooks, nurse's aides, custodians, and baristas who sometimes work two and three jobs in order to have anything that resembles financial safety. I have no idea where they get the stamina to work even one manual labor job, let alone two.

If you're working two jobs, it's incredibly hard to add anything like further schooling to the picture--especially if you're raising a family. I've known lots of this type of people and I admire them tremendously and I resent President Frat Boy's role in creating a Republican culture that sneers at them.

Filthy, I know just what you mean about feeling rich no matter your income. Some of my happiest days were my early days out of college. I ate a lot of Top Ramen , but for the first time in my life, I was free. To me, that was wealth.
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Woody D
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Thailand
285 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2003 :  18:33:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Woody D a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

I've just opened a jar of pickled eggs that my son-in-law will not gobble up as soon as he sets eyes on them. I simmered the brine with 2 chopped habenero peppers, yum....YOW! (hehe)He won't get past the first o' them flamin' cacklberries. Hell, I betcha he'll be stopped in his tracks at the first bite. All the more for me!

Holly shit! Filthy.....I DO NOT want to see the inside of your stomach.
Sorry, but if you are ever a guest in my house you'll have to settle for more simple foods but I could have my room mate fry you up some spicy Thai food... Yuk!

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As long as there's, you know, sex and drugs, I can do without the rock and roll.
Mick Shrimpton
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Woody D
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Thailand
285 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2003 :  18:42:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Woody D a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Renae

To me, being rich is avoiding money anxiety. Rich is not worrying how you'll pay your bills. Having enough to own a home, because renting is an insecure way to live. Having enough $ in savings so that you're cushioned if something bad happens (like if the dog gets sick, if you need a brake job on the car, if you need to replace the roof on your house, etc.). And having enough $ to take one nice vacation every year.

Thank you Renae, for giving a reasonable and senseable answer.
That is very much what I'd also say and for now am pretty much in that situation.
But my contention is that everyday is a worry when one has all that
mentioned above, but the government wants to take it away (through more taxes).

www.Carabao.net
As long as there's, you know, sex and drugs, I can do without the rock and roll.
Mick Shrimpton
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Woody D
Skeptic Friend

Thailand
285 Posts

Posted - 12/13/2003 :  19:10:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Woody D a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Gorgo
If you were rich and you wanted to go to Egypt, you'd go, I suppose.


The reason I'm not going to Egypt is because the people/countries in that part of the world, Isreal and the Arabs, are NUTS! Money has nothing to do with it. I would be richer for the visit though.
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So maybe not everyone can be rich? Or maybe, everyone can be rich in the same way that everyone can win the lottery? Sure, there's a chance, but not likely unless you're born rich or at least on third base.



I could be misunderstanding but it sure sounds like you and a few others have some sort of grudge against anyone with lots of money or growing up with more. I don't see how someone elses wealth stops anyone from obtaining their own. Why should anyone care if someone else has a fancy home or yacht? It's nothing to me if they are enjoying their possessions. I have other things to think about.
Perhaps people who are so concerned with what someone else has should spend less time hating and thinking about others and concintrate on moving their own life forward.
I truly had nothing more than the average person, maybe even less, when I stated out on my own but I saved and was frugal. I never borrowed or was given anything from my parents, who didn't have that much to give anyway. (At least not in money). I do think people can have a good life* if they balance what they do.
* according to the way Renae explained it. So if you stop hating people who have more than they know what to do with, and think about being comfortable with your own life, with your own standards not what advertizers want you to think, maybe you will sound like a happier person.

www.Carabao.net
As long as there's, you know, sex and drugs, I can do without the rock and roll.
Mick Shrimpton
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 12/14/2003 :  04:31:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
Yes, you are misunderstanding.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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