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Caligula
New Member
USA
30 Posts |
 Posted - 01/14/2004 : 15:25:25
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I've been around the net, saw lots and lots of info,FBI responses to alleged crimes and links to communism going back to Mr.Hubbard in 1940.I was wondering if anyone has any updates ?
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Woody D
Skeptic Friend
Thailand
285 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2004 : 00:58:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Caligula
I've been around the net, saw lots and lots of info,FBI responses to alleged crimes and links to communism going back to Mr.Hubbard in 1940.I was wondering if anyone has any updates ?
Updates on what?
You titled this folder 'Scientology and dianetics' so I'm not sure what you are asking about.
LOL, can't wait to comment on the idiots who 'practice' that 'religion'.
One update could be that L is with Jimmy (Hoffa) having a fun time on some tropical island somewhere, I guess!!! |
www.Carabao.net
As long as there's, you know, sex and drugs, I can do without the rock and roll.
Mick Shrimpton
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2004 : 02:23:13 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Caligula
I've been around the net, saw lots and lots of info,FBI responses to alleged crimes and links to communism going back to Mr.Hubbard in 1940.I was wondering if anyone has any updates ?
Check out this site:
http://www.xenu.net/ |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2004 : 16:38:16 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Starman
quote:
Originally posted by Caligula
I've been around the net, saw lots and lots of info,FBI responses to alleged crimes and links to communism going back to Mr.Hubbard in 1940.I was wondering if anyone has any updates ?
Check out this site:
http://www.xenu.net/
The famous "NOTs" may be ordered, courtesy of the Swedish Government.
Some 220 pages of material was submitted to a Swedish court as evidense in a lawsuit, and thus it became a matter of public record.
Info about how to order the NOTs:
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d1dd/cos/pan27.html |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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Caligula
New Member
USA
30 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2004 : 12:54:31 [Permalink]
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i found another link that talks about the reality of the situation,i think i'ts like this www.scientologylies.com (in any case, if that don't work for whatever reasons, then just google it
stillmind
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Warning: Some replies could get me mad but I'm sexier when I'm mad. |
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
775 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2004 : 04:11:55 [Permalink]
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Hey, I read Hubbard's Mission Earth Decology many years ago. Does that qualify me as an apprentice Scientologist?
(I'm still trying to become a member of the wonderful world of hoo doo claptrap, but I just can't find a way to get that...well, stupid)
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"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their -- their love with women all across this country." Dubya in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 9/6/2004
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Tom Morris
New Member
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2004 : 12:19:15 [Permalink]
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| Just do a little bit of reading on xenu.net, and a little bit of Googling, and you'll find all sorts of interesting things. Say no more. Wink wink. |
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
1620 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2004 : 06:09:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Tim
Hey, I read Hubbard's Mission Earth Decology many years ago. Does that qualify me as an apprentice Scientologist?
(I'm still trying to become a member of the wonderful world of hoo doo claptrap, but I just can't find a way to get that...well, stupid)
I heard Hubbard was dead when he 'wrote' that series. He was 'channeled' by the scientologists. Anyone know if that's true? (I guess he was the 'ghost' writer - LOL! [sorry, couldn't resist]) |
-Chaloobi
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2004 : 08:38:39 [Permalink]
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L. Ron died at the beginning of 1986. Book one of the series was published in 1985, books two through five were published in 1986, and books six through ten in 1987. However, Amazon.com claims that the first book was reissued in 1985. But they're wrong, as the Library of Congress shows 1985 to be the date of the first edition.
Now, given that these books all appear to be more than 350 pages, and that NaNoWriMo presents writing 175 pages in 30 days as a serious challenge (even for crappy writing), it seems more than likely to me that all ten books had been written prior to 1985, and a publishing deal set up to release one every 10 weeks or so.
On the other hand, if someone is claiming that the books were dictated, then the 175-pages-in-30-days thing doesn't really matter. How Hubbard was channeled before his death would be an interesting question, though. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
1620 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2004 : 10:30:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
L. Ron died at the beginning of 1986. Book one of the series was published in 1985, books two through five were published in 1986, and books six through ten in 1987. However, Amazon.com claims that the first book was reissued in 1985. But they're wrong, as the Library of Congress shows 1985 to be the date of the first edition.
Now, given that these books all appear to be more than 350 pages, and that NaNoWriMo presents writing 175 pages in 30 days as a serious challenge (even for crappy writing), it seems more than likely to me that all ten books had been written prior to 1985, and a publishing deal set up to release one every 10 weeks or so.
On the other hand, if someone is claiming that the books were dictated, then the 175-pages-in-30-days thing doesn't really matter. How Hubbard was channeled before his death would be an interesting question, though.
Here's an interesting account of the writing of Mission Earth by the Editor:
http://www.lermanet.com/cos/MissionEarth.htm
If this account is to be believed, I can see why some thought Hubbard was dead. He was apparently in 'hiding' and communicated only by courier. It would be easy to speculate that he was dead. Plus, as indicated in the account, he apparently often used ghost writers...
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Here's another article - from the San Diego Union, April 15, 1990, front page article - it discusses the claim of the Mission Earth series and Battlefield Earth becoming best sellers through manipulation of sales by the Church of Scientology. It also makes no mention at all of the rumor that Hubbard was dead when he wrote it. Of greatest interest, it reveals the L. stands for Layfette. No wonder he never used the name. 
http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/book-buy.htm |
-Chaloobi
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
3192 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 11:42:15 [Permalink]
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"The easiast way to make a million dollars is to start a religion." L. Ron Hubbard
Sad, my mom was about to get a job in Clearwater, so I had to set her straight or see her consumed by the church. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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