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Slater
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Posted - 03/15/2002 :  20:37:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
Well I've been doing a search for Maimoides and I can find him talking about the importance of the mikveh but not a word about baptism. Mind telling me what translation you are using?

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----Eusebius of Nicomedia,
[i]The Preparation of the Gospel[/i]
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darwin alogos
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Posted - 03/15/2002 :  20:58:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send darwin alogos a Private Message
Oh I see its perfectly valid for Slater to quote: And as for the original Christ. The Greek title was a common one for saviour gods.
But I still think that Jesus Christ got his title from Apollonius of Tyana's Krishna. The reasons I lean in that direction rather than the Egyptian is that his group were called Christians. In fact, in English untill the 19th century, the name Krishna was spelled Christna. His people were in the right place (Rome and the eastern Med.) at the right time, they behaved like Catholic legend says that the early Christians behaved, and the used the symbol of Pisces which in those days was a single fish made from segments of the circumference of a circle. Pisces being the sign of rebirth of Krishna on the first of spring, not the silly annagram todays fundies claim.

Although a case can be made for the Egyptian since in the first century the Romans of Rome itself had a long lived Egyptian "fad" (clothing and design, etc. Just like the fads we have today)

Where ever the title Christ came from no Jew would have been caught dead using it. It would have been blasphemy in their strict religion.

As a contrived convoluted attempt to explane the "historical" origins of the word "christ",but don't qoute Jewish sources for an ancient "Jewish" practices.Instead lets ask a 20th century Rabbi on streets of New York? P.S. For Slater, are you really that ignorant that the word "christ" is the transliteration of the hebrew word "messiah"?And of course no Jew would "be caught dead using it" look what happened to Jesus when he did Mark 14:61b-63.

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@tomic
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Posted - 03/15/2002 :  21:04:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
LOL, what was slater thinking asking a Rabbi about jewish practices. Whew, busting a gut here.

@tomic

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Slater
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Posted - 03/15/2002 :  23:23:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
Instead lets ask a 20th century Rabbi on streets of New York?
Howie is from the twenty-first century, thank you. And we were in his living room not on the street. He and I go back to high school together. I gave him his first ham and swiss on rye. He happens to be a Rabbi. Are you saying that a Rabbi is an inappropriate profession to ask about Judaism? You must be because Rabbis like Howie tell you that you are stupid to ask about Jewish baptism.

P.S. For Slater, are you really that ignorant that the word "christ" is the transliteration of the hebrew word "messiah"?
Actually Christ means "the anointed one" which was one of the titles of Krishna who was anointed by Vishnu.
The word "transliterate" means to write in the alphabetical characters of another language that represent the same sounds. Christ and Messiah don't sound anything like each other, so I'm assuming you meant "translate."
Christian and Krishnian are a transliteration.
The word Messiah translates as "the Liberator." Jesus not only didn't liberate the Jews he wasn't anointed unless you count a slut splashing oil on his tootsies.

And of course no Jew would "be caught dead using it" look what happened to Jesus when he did Mark 14:61b-63.
Sorry, I threw my bible in the garbage. There are sometimes children around here and I don't want them exposed to such crap. What's Mark 14:61b-63. And when did they start putting "b"s in bible verses?




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Boron10
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Posted - 03/16/2002 :  04:23:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Boron10 a Private Message
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Baptism was in the wilderness, just before giving of the Law, as it is written: 'Sanctify them today and tomorrow, and let them wash their clothes' (Exodus 19:10).
I believe somebody else already pointed this out, but I feel compelled to bring it up again: what does washing clothes have to do with baptism?

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Boron10
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Posted - 03/16/2002 :  04:46:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Boron10 a Private Message
OK, folks! I am locking this thread due to size, to be picked up next door at "Did Jesus Really Exist? (Part 2)" You can either go find it or click below (this will bring up a new window):

http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=912&FORUM_ID=8&CAT_ID=1&Topic_Title=Did Jesus Really Exist%3F %28Part 2%29&Forum_Title=Religion

-me.
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Boron10
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Posted - 04/24/2002 :  05:40:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Boron10 a Private Message
Bump to top. InChrist, I highly reccomend you read this (lengthy) thread.

-me.
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