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tergiversant
Skeptic Friend
USA
284 Posts |
 Posted - 08/01/2001 : 14:01:54
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Poll Question:
What forms of biotech research (to include stem cell research, cloning, and genetic engineering) should be legally prohibited?
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| Nothing, so long as no physical harm is done. |
 [70%] |
90 votes |
| Genetic manipulation of human adults or children. |
[5%] |
7 votes |
| Genetic manipulation of human fetuses or fetal cells. |
[5%] |
6 votes |
| Genetic manipulation of human embryonic or zygotic cells. |
[2%] |
2 votes |
| Genetic manipulation of any animals, including humans. |
[4%] |
5 votes |
| Genetic manipulation of any plants or animals. |
[2%] |
3 votes |
| Any genetic manipulation whatsoever. |
[12%] |
16 votes |
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Poll Status:
Locked »» |
Total Votes: 129 counted »» |
Last Vote:
06/28/2005 19:01:57 |
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Zandermann
Skeptic Friend
USA
431 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2001 : 22:44:45 [Permalink]
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I see no reason to prohibit any of these types of research via legislation. We're not talking about basement chemistry sets here, so the possibility of some 'abuse' is practically nil, in my opinion.
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
4607 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2001 : 00:08:23 [Permalink]
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I also wonder how a term like "physical harm" could be twisted by lawyers 
 @tomic
Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law! |
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Don2cypup
New Member
USA
18 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2001 : 07:42:34 [Permalink]
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I not only agree with both Zandermann, and @tomic, but, pointing out as well,those Scientists involved within the biomedical field of Science have a keen sense of Ethics that would have/could have been involved with this Biotech Research. I seriously doubt anyone within it was going to play "Dr. Frankenstein", and create the monster,or resort to unethical practices for personal gains, or power. Imagine what other side benefits may have been gained, such as discovering preventions or cures, [via genetic coding] for irreversible conditions/diseases known today in mankind that still remain unanswered, or barely treatable. That real possiblity alone is worth it!..Could this [law banning it] be a result, in part, of the morality code based on "certain religious beliefs"[aka "Moral Majority"] of those in power to veto its entire concept?..I must truly wonder just how "scientifically based" this decision was to ban Biotech?...My senator needs some communications from me, as well!...Donna..[is posting this same message in Kil's Topic, too!]... |
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
1447 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2001 : 13:44:39 [Permalink]
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Rats! Ignore that first "Any genetic manipulation whatsoever" vote. I read the question wrong. The first choice is what I should have selected. 
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
1447 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2001 : 13:48:43 [Permalink]
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quote:
I seriously doubt anyone within it was going to play "Dr. Frankenstein", and create the monster,or resort to unethical practices for personal gains, or power.
Unfortunately, while not directly related to cloning, there is significant evidence that the Chinese are doing exactly this. Harvesting organs from prison inmates, for profit. So I wouldn't "seriously" doubt it. But I'm sure it would be very rare (hopefully), and easily exposed.
Too bad that in the U.S., it seems to only take a few bad examples to ruin it for everyone.
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comradebillyboy
Skeptic Friend
USA
188 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2001 : 01:13:57 [Permalink]
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quote:
those Scientists involved within the biomedical field of Science have a keen sense of Ethics
sorry, too many documented cases of the united states government doing medical research on human subjects without their knowledge or consent,
comrade billyboy |
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Dog_Ed
Skeptic Friend
USA
126 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2001 : 01:53:19 [Permalink]
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Hmmm. Anybody remember thalidomide? If genetic manipulation of fetuses results in similar well-intentioned mistakes then it will be a tragedy. At this point (which is as far as my crystal ball will take me) I would not favor messing about with any fetuses which are then allowed to develop into human beings.
"Even Einstein put his foot in it sometimes" |
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Bradley
Skeptic Friend
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2001 : 18:41:04 [Permalink]
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Cloning of humans should be restricted to Nobel laureates only. This technology should not be used for cloning yuppies who think the world would be so much better off with several genetic duplicates of themselves.
There is so much hooraw about "the spectre of eugenics." Personally, I don't find that quite so disturbing as the spectre of using fertility drugs so that lowlife yokels can spit out several progeny at a shot.
"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."
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Deborah
Skeptic Friend
USA
113 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2001 : 01:25:36 [Permalink]
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I think that I will have myself and my cat, Mr. Kitty, cloned. Immortality! Ahhhhh
Maybe I could get a buy 1 get 1 free deal 
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bestonnet_00
Skeptic Friend
Australia
358 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2001 : 03:01:54 [Permalink]
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Cloning wont give immortality.
Radioactive GM Crops.
Slightly above background.
Safe to eat.
But no activist would dare rip it out.
As they think it gives them cancer. |
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2001 : 11:05:26 [Permalink]
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What is the god damn big deal about this?
As Dr. Edell says, congress has no business deciding scientific arguments. I'm paraphrasing but you get the idea. Congress doesn't have the knowledge or understanding to make medical choices.
Rap Crap is to music what Paint by Numbers is to art. |
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ljbrs
SFN Regular
USA
842 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2001 : 17:46:34 [Permalink]
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I cannot see the problems people have with this topic. There is an irrationality with dealing with something which is so very, very tiny as if it were a full grown child. A zygote is not a child by any stretch of the imagination. The only difference that a zygote has from an ovum is the spermatozoon's contribution. Big deal. Without that extra spermatozoon contribution, it would hardly be considered as anything of value...
ljbrs 
Perfection Is a State of Growth... |
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ljbrs
SFN Regular
USA
842 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2001 : 17:50:52 [Permalink]
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Spermatozoa are lost in the sheets all of the time. Nobody seems to lose sleep over those...
ljbrs
Perfection Is a State of Growth... |
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2001 : 18:00:15 [Permalink]
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"We must preserve our precious bodily fluids!" - Gen. Jack D. Ripper
...from the movie Dr. Strangelove |
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
4607 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2001 : 18:14:44 [Permalink]
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quote:
Spermatozoa are lost in the sheets all of the time. Nobody seems to lose sleep over those...
Actually, I have been losing sleep over them. It's good to know where the little buggers have gone off to.
@tomic
Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law! |
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