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tomk80
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Netherlands
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 Posted - 04/12/2004 : 18:31:42 [Permalink]
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Ricky wrote:
They don't repent, they continue to hide from him.
You're right. He just assesses the damage done and punishes them before they have a chance to do so. Well, that certainly seems in agreement with the rest of the old testament.
In that case I'd say the explanation you heard isn't in agreement with the bible because they didn't repent in the first place. |
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
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Posted - 04/13/2004 : 13:11:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Ricky wrote:quote:
Can god calculate the exact value of Pi?
God created pi.
I would rather say we created pi. It's not a natural constant. |
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Ricky
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byhisgrace88
Formerly "creation88"
USA
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Posted - 04/13/2004 : 18:53:21 [Permalink]
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If you read the bible carefully, you will see that when God was first invented he was not omnipotent. He use to walk around and you could hide from him. Over the ages he became more and more powerful until now he is all knowing
C'mon guys, know the context surounding a passage of scripture before you speak on it. This story was even before Old Testament sacrifice.
This was the first sin so therefore there was no need for forgiveness prior to this. The fact that he was walking and looking does not speak to him not being omnipitent. Because he was searching does not mean he did'nt know exactly where they were. And it was different at that point also, they were in direct contact with God. One of the punishments for sin was that they were now seperated from God.
And God was not "invented". He just was. |
Indeed, if we consider the unblushing promises of reward and the staggering nature of the rewards promised in the Gospels, it would seem that Our Lord finds our desire, not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.-- C.S. Lewis |
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Dave W.
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Ricky
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
385 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2004 : 22:01:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
I would disagree with that. It was found that the ratio of the circumference to the radius of a circle is 3.14..... We did not create it, we found it.
I'm not that sure. Are there absolutely perfect circles anywhere? Is it possible for perfect circles to exist? I thought that it was a mathematical constant and not a physical one. |
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dominic_dice
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
53 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2004 : 00:14:01 [Permalink]
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| If somthing fell in the words of course it would make a sound (IMHO). Sound is about vibration of particles- somthing that doesn't require a human presence. |
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Ricky
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2004 : 18:43:11 [Permalink]
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Maverick wrote:quote:
I'm not that sure. Are there absolutely perfect circles anywhere? Is it possible for perfect circles to exist? I thought that it was a mathematical constant and not a physical one.
Perfect circles do not exist in nature, or by human construction, as points are infinitely small. But, with the knowledge of what a perfect circle should look like, ideally, we can calculate pi to many millions of digits. It is a mathematical constant which is defined by the geometry we live in everyday. The geomtry we write down on paper may be idealized, but that doesn't stop us from building skyscrapers that remain standing for many years. |
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 04/20/2004 : 07:45:53 [Permalink]
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If you read the bible carefully, you will see that when God was first invented he was not omnipotent. He use to walk around and you could hide from him. Over the ages he became more and more powerful until now he is all knowing
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C'mon guys, know the context surounding a passage of scripture before you speak on it. This story was even before Old Testament sacrifice.
This was the first sin so therefore there was no need for forgiveness prior to this. The fact that he was walking and looking does not speak to him not being omnipitent. Because he was searching does not mean he did'nt know exactly where they were.
So the bible says that God was searching for Adam and Eve but he wasn't really, because he knew exactly where they were. So you are saying we should not take this passage from the old testament literally. OK, I can agree with that. This is one of the first times that I can remember agreeing with you on religion!
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dominic_dice
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/20/2004 : 08:04:58 [Permalink]
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| Sorry! I was replying to a question on the first page, din't realise how many pages there were. |
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