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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 05/13/2004 : 06:49:41 [Permalink]
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Can da filth call it, or what?!! 
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UPDATE - Weinsteins, Disney near deal on "Fahrenheit 9/11"
Wednesday May 12, 7:43 pm ET
(Recasts, adds Disney comment, background)
LOS ANGELES, May 12 (Reuters) - The Walt Disney Co. (NYSE:DIS - News) and the co-chiefs of Miramax Films are near a deal that would allow director Michael Moore to find a new distributor for his controversial documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11," company officials said on Wednesday.
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Disney, Miramax's parent company, had refused to release the film that chronicles America's reaction to the Sept. 11 attacks and links U.S. President George W. Bush's family and prominent Saudis that include the family of Osama bin Laden.
The film is set to premiere at the Cannes film festival, which began on Wednesday in the French Riviera city.
Miramax spokesman Matthew Hiltzik said Disney had agreed to sell rights to Moore's film to Miramax co-chief executives Harvey Weinstein and his brother Bob Weinstein, who could then go out and find a new distributor.
A Disney spokeswoman, however, characterized the parties as still being in negotiations.
http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040512/media_disney_moore_3.html
Now everybody's gonna get a piece of the action, and Doozy will come out of it looking pretty much clean to the Bushies.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 05/14/2004 : 07:02:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Woody D
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Originally posted by Kil
I hate to break this to you but people earning minimum wage do not pay much in taxes. They are probably working for a company that does not give them benefits, and they don't have enough money to pay for healthcare. Essentials are probably all they can offered, maybe...
Property tax, sales tax, tax on utilities. Every community is different but I for one don't like paying tax on gas for cars when roads don't look like they've been improved. Or property tax when schools are in such bad shape but the city council takes expensive trips instead. And no matter where one lives....except on the street, I guess, they pay those taxes, and no matter how low their income is. If anyone lives in an apartment don't think they get away with not paying, it's part of the rent because the landlord has to pay it and he has to get it somewhere or looses his property for not paying taxes. So yeah, I guess you are right, they don't pay much if they live in a poor area but they pay something, that along with everyone else they shouldn't have to, IF the government would spend a bit more wisely.
As for health care, there is no right to health care. There are a lot of points to speak about but bottom line, there's too much red tape. Much of the poor and homeless type problems could be covered by charities but the government is fouling that up too. One way is because of taking too much from people (in taxes) to give to government programs that don't work when people could be giving to places of their choice that do work....IF they had to money to give (after taxes).
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4954303/
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gezzam
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Woody D
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Posted - 05/14/2004 : 11:27:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
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A Disney spokeswoman, however, characterized the parties as still being in negotiations.
The key word there is ADVERTISEMENT. Perhaps that was just in there to denote something that had nothing to do with the story but it's ironic anyway.
Don't you people get it? It's ALL advertisement. Everything out there is to create gossip so you will be curious and spend your money to find out what it's all about. EVERYTHING. Maybe it's just here in Los Angeles but everywhere you go, you can't get away from it. Now they are sticking ads anywhere people look. On the back of shopping carts, on the floor of suppermarkets, as you stand in line to pay there are TVs showing commericals. Newspaper 'stories' that aren't stories but are ads, they say so up in the top corner in small print.
Don't you think all this(Disney business) was manipulated long before it was out to the public? They want your money. Geessss.
Side note: Michael Moore is an ass and if you pay to see his work you are the fool. But then, that's not the point, is it? They, who ever it is, they want your money and don't care why you pay or for what message you think you are getting, they got your money anyway.
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gezzam:
Under your system, get used to this kind of treatment.
You got that right. But it's been going on for many, many years. Throw the little people a bone (program). Let them think the government is giving....or helping them in some magnanimous way. Let them get 'hooked' on taking these little bread crumbs with the hope things will get better. Keep the people from being independent and knowledgeable.
Go ahead and argue with me but if all these benifits that were designed to teach kids to better advance in society or help the homeless, stop crime, etc., if they were supposed to help, why are not things better today? If they are for you, that's nice but it's not here, yet.
Side note: heard this morning that Arnold has a bugget for California that doesn't raise taxes....we'll see!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 05/14/2004 : 12:04:11 [Permalink]
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The 'ADVERTISEMENT' was something that got tangled up in the post and I missed it. The article itself is the real deal, or at least as real as you might expect.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Woody D
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Posted - 05/14/2004 : 18:52:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
The 'ADVERTISEMENT' was something that got tangled up in the post and I missed it. The article itself is the real deal, or at least as real as you might expect.
Thanks Filthy, I wasn't sure but figured it was real since it was from Reuters, however it doesn't matter, the point was advertizing is everywhere and is sometimes indistingishable from real news and the main point, even if something is news 'they' are trying to get your money.
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Kil
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 05/23/2004 : 11:14:37 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Anti-Bush film tops Cannes awards
Director Michael Moore's controversial anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 has won the prestigious Palme d'Or best film award at the Cannes festival.
Quite an accomplishment!
I wonder if there wasn't a little anti-Bush politics involved in the judging, but never mind -- It's good. And anti-Bushism has become a world-wide phenomena.
I'm looking forward to it's release here in the States.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 05/27/2004 : 16:08:49 [Permalink]
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Nope, didn't see this comin':
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In a stunning move, filmmaker Michael Moore says his latest film, "Fahrenheit 9/11"
will be released by BitTorrent, the popular peer-to-peer file-sharing network.
"This film deserves the widest possible distribution," said Moore. "I had hoped
I could achieve that with Miramax and Disney, but such was not to be the case.
I'm thrilled to announce that I have an even better solution. BitTorrent!"
http://www.denounce.com/archives/000055.html
If true, I happily await the sweet, tit-in-the-mangle howls outrage from the neo-concervatives, the freepers, and the internationally notorious tag-team of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.
Sweeeet howls of outrage!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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satans_mom
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 14:18:26 [Permalink]
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There's a lot of talk about people complaining about the horrendous lives we lead in America, but I'd just like to point out that in any group of people, someone is going to be complaining about something. That's democratic in a sense. If people didn't complain, nothing would ever be changed. The problem you are all stating is that lazy people are complaining.
I don't care who releases the film or who makes how much money or how much money is lost. Money is on the bottom of the "importance" list here for me, and I feel should be as well for many others. The main thing is, if Moore can persuade enough people to vote against Bush, I'm content. Hell, I even got registered to vote just so I can throw one against him. I don't particularly like Kerry, but in any case, I would rather have him as President than that right-wing religious extremist we have completely ruining our system that could possibly work.
I'm more of a socialist myself. I'd like to have free health care when I need it. But that would include a lot of work from the people to pay for the necessary equipment, materials, etc involved in health care. Not very many people would like that. So how do we expect to get free health care? I can see why we as Americans cannot figure healthcare-for-all plans out, because I don't think anyone would like a large amount taken from a paycheck just so the majority can get free health care. Someone will see this situation as perverted because many people being taken care of don't work and it won't seem fair. It's pretty much safe to conclude nothing will ever be fair. And the easiest way I'm taking in the whole schematics of American life is waiting for the rest of the population to catch up, waiting for them to figure things out... In the meantime, I'll do what I wish to do in free time, personal luxury, so to speak. But that seems to be the most of what we can all do. If anyone can speed up this process, good for him!! I'm all for it. Moore might be able to do just that, even if some believe he has distorted facts in previous documentaries. But since most news sources here in America do the same thing, and people are constantly brainwashed by these sources, perhaps he's just taken their method and using it for a closer benefit. If it works, I'm satisfied. |
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verlch
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Posted - 06/26/2004 : 13:11:50 [Permalink]
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| Moore just wants another immoral democrate in the white house to get caught doing something wrong! At least immoral republicans don't get caught!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/26/2004 : 21:24:43 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
At least immoral republicans don't get caught!!!
Yeah, not like Nixon. Or (small assuption here) W's daughters. |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 12:58:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Moore just wants another immoral democrate in the white house to get caught doing something wrong! At least immoral republicans don't get caught!!!
So you'd rather have an immoral person who doesn't get caught, than one who does, as a president?
Is that the kind of moral that guides your life too?
So you think it's OK to be immoral of no one catches you, because then you only have to answer to God? It's easier to ask God for forgiveness that the person you wronged.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 14:59:22 [Permalink]
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Verlch:
Moore just wants another immoral democrate in the white house to get caught doing something wrong! At least immoral republicans don't get caught!!!
I don't know but it seems to me that sending people to die in an unsessasary war is pretty immoral. And, as far as I can tell, Bush has been caught... |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 17:32:20 [Permalink]
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| Kil, G.W.Bush is the new republican messiah. These idiot fundies are like the three monkeys when it comes to W. They don't see/hear/ or speak of evil when their new god is the topic. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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