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Randy
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Posted - 08/14/2001 :  09:25:38  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message
Just a plithera of assorted cut 'n pastes culled from the BA message board, most all from our favorite drooling Apollo Hoax troll - Piper.
This is just a partial list, some of his most memorable works are lost in cyber space (where they belong!).
There has been some real lulu's posted since the first Fox Apollo Conspiracy show. Wished I had collected a few of the earlier ones.
The purpose of this folder is just to present a quick read into the mind of a doorknob.
For your fond reminicence and amusement.....
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Posted by Piper on June 11, 2001 at 10:27:05:


The Man and Bird Sculpture on the Cydonia "Face"

The article was addressing bogus scientists just like you. All you have is ridicule an ridiculous comparisons. If you actually used science you would have to admit to the artficiality of the "face."

Not only is the face artificial, there are artifacts on the face that were most definately made my intelligent beings. There simply is no denying it (unless you're a bogus scientist of course).

There is a clear sculpture of a man and large bird on the side of the face, in the exact spot where scientist claim erosion or a cave-in took place. Erosion and cave-ins do not carve detailed sculptures in rock. That's not the only artificial thing "on" the face either.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on June 11, 2001 at 14:41:25:


Son, if you need science to tell you whether or not a DETAILED SCULPTURE is artificial, then I guess you're too far gone for my help.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on June 11, 2001 at 11:22:44:

You are another one the article addresses. Since you can't explain it away in scientific terms (or any other way), you attempt to discredit the messenger. That only discredits you, and your scientific opinion (or lack there of).

People aren't as stupid as you seem to want them to be.

"The times they are a changin'"

When they do change, you'll be changing tires, and when I get my tires balanced and rotated, you darn well better do a good job, or you'll be flipping burgers with BA.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on June 11, 2001 at 13:11:00:

When you're riding down the highway, and you car breaks down, the only thing you can do is, get on your cell phone and put yourself at the mercy of a mechanic you will read your wallet before he gives you a price. That also goes for the plumber, the electrician, the lawn man, etc.

Your knowledge can only get you so far, you will always be at the mercy of others.

You wouldn't even know how to balance a tire (or even get one off the rim).

Piper



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Posted by Piper on June 11, 2001 at 14:53:37:

It helps to come out of your own little world once and a while, and smell the sweet scent of relevance.

Piper


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Posted by Piper on June 11, 2001 at 12:47:15:

In Reply to: Re: Clear artificiality on the "face" posted by The Bad Astronomer on June 11, 2001 at 12:39:20:

I am retired (at 42). I have done many things in my life and one of them was the right thing.

I'm doing the right thing now by getting the truth out.

As a hobby, I rebuild old cars in my back yard, but I was never a mechanic by trade.

Piper



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Posted by This whole thread is a textbook example. ....Piper on June 11, 2001 at 13:16:25:

Poor thing, do you want all the bad truth and reality to go away???

Too bad, it's already been away for too long.

The truth is coming home to Earth.

Piper


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Posted by Piper on June 11, 2001 at 13:53:15:

I guess that's supposed to be your idea of a rebuttal.

How scientific (not).

Piper



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Posted by Piper on June 11, 2001 at 14:27:34:

Nope, not even close to wealthy and have no desire to be wealthy. I spread the truth for free.

I suggest you purchase the industry professional version of PhotoShop. You will then be able to throw away your magnifying glass and REALLY SEE something in these pics.

I already have a nice set up, and fortunately I have 20/20 vision. I have noticed that people with poor vision and many who wear glasses have great difficulty discerning objects in satellite photos, and long range anomalies on the ground in Apollo photos. Maybe you fall into the poor vision category. That's the only thing I can come up with. Maybe you are just in denial, and need to inject a little honesty into your life.

Oh, now isn't that scientific (not).

I guess if that meant something, you might have a point. Unfortunately it doesn't have squat to do with the image in question.

Well gosh, I guess I'm supposed to believe that explains something away. I just looked at the image again, and everything I described, the way I described it is still there.

There is not one Apollo image with a clear, close shot of the ground, from any Apollo mission that, long range anomalies can't be found in. I never said it was our technology used to fake the photos. I only know they are fake.

Saying I'm wrong does not make the round building with a door and a radar dish go away. It's still there. Look for yourself.

Just think, if you had the truth on your side, you wouldn't have to make those kind of insinuations, and you could be a straight up kind of guy.

Too bad you'll never know what that feels like.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on June 11, 2001 at 14:05:19:

I'm sure you have a lot of bad names for people who tell you truth that you don't want to hear.

Calling a messenger of truth a troll, does not change the truth, nor does it deter this particular messenger.

No one even NOTICED that image for over THIRTY years. NASA was confident no one ever would. You never would have noticed it had to not been pointed out to you.

That photo was linked to the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal. Those photos can be found in other places besides the internet, and they are the same no matter where they come from. They are as fake as the Apollo missions themselves.

You have not discounted or explained away even one discrepancy in the image. A bunch of meaningless words strung together does not an explanation make.

Hon, rational thinking does not equate to thinking up new excuses to stay in denial. I suggest you re-check the definition.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on July 08, 2001 at 14:44:31:

Does that make you the son of a son of a sucker?

It seems you are in denial about even the smallest things. I will assure you the word "gullible" is in the dictionary and the definition fits you quite well.

Now that you know, you are no longer ignorant, therefore you are no longer innocent.

Piper


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Posted by A unique historic perspective...Piper on July 09, 2001 at 00:16:35:

You'll notice I didn't call you "the" King of Denial, because there is obviously room for many Kings of Denial on this board. They are a dime a dozen around here in fact.

Then I guess no one can say the King didn't have good judgement.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 16:39:24:

I'll let you people get back to your fantasies.

Until the next time you least expect it.....

Piper

Be sure to bookmark the Apollo Mini Anomalies site. It will be updated regularly.



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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 10:46:02:

xxxxx, here is a site you should got to

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=seethruart (link also at bottom of page)

Bookmark it, because many of the images there require a little study. Plus you have been brainwashed to believe there is nothing but dust and rocks on the moon's surface and you have to get that out of your mind. Many of mini-anomalies being found on the ground in Apollo photos are fantastic and go beyond explanation.

Mini-anomalies are being found in Apollo photos (from every mission). I believe they are long range anomalies. The images posted at the site are only a portion of what has been found so far, and more are coming. So please bookmark it and continue checking it for updates and image quality improvements.

From my studies of the mini-anomalies, I believe the astronauts were super-imposed onto a series of long range images of the moon. I believe this was done to make everything on the surface appear so tiny that, if you only gave the ground a glance or a casual close look, the moon would appear empty and lifeless. However, if you "study" the ground in Apollo photos like you would a satellite image or a long range image, you will see far more on the surface than dust and rocks.

There are only two other explanations for these mini anomalies. The first is that there are tiny (miniscule) beings living on the moon (I tend to seriously doubt that), and the other explanation would lead to every Apollo photo and video being TOTALLY fake. Most people I know who have seen these anomalies and have found more on their own agree with me that the mini-anomalies are long-range anomalies. Look at the first image in the Apollo Mini Anomalies 1 folder and there are links to other sites where strange Apollo anomalies are being found. The Apollo missions were faked and it's being proven beyond any doubt. I'm not saying we have never sent crafts to the moon, or even that earth men never walked on the surface of the moon. I'm just saying the Apollo missions were fake, and no Apollo astronaut ever walked on the surface shown in Apollo photos.

I read you earlier posts and you handled yourself quite nicely, even though you never got a straight answer to your questions (and you never will because there are no straight answers to your questions because the Apollo missions are the fakest thing the US has ever done). The only thing that "really" happend was, one rocket was launched into space for each Apollo mission. That's all that really happened.

I've already discussed this subject here (everyone went blind or into denial), so I'm only posting this for your information.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 12:15:36:

You can't even begin to explain all of what is on that site, and there is still much more to come.



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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 12:19:11:

Sooner or later NASA will have to discuss them. I do not plan on keeping this secret and before it's all said and done
there will be hundreds of mini anomalies posted at the site. None can be explained away, they will have to be truly explained.

The truth is out of the bag and it's not going to get back in.

The Apollo photos are fake.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 12:29:36:

However, if they are really artifacts, then we are talking about a minuscule race of beings on the moon. It's either that, or
they are long range anomalies (that's what I believe), or all the photos and videos from every Apollo mission are totally fake.

If they are alien artifacts, it won't be long until everyone is this country is demanding to see them.

Either way, NASA has some serious explaining to do.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 13:38:55:

Actually, there is a study of Apollo astronaut's boot prints still yet to come at the site. I hope it will help strengthen my theory of the astronauts being super-imposed onto long range images of the surface. New software and memory are on the way to help make the boot print images more clear and presentable as evidence.

Until that time, I can not rule out any other alternatives, and it's hard for me to call your theory ridiculous, because when these mini-anomalies were first presented, my theory and myself were called all sorts of things (still are). The good thing is, my persistance paid off because now others see what I am pointing out and they ask the same questions as you, and I hope we can get some "real" answers, and not the bogus "explain it all away" explanations that are so common at this particular site.

As far as you theory goes, it makes no difference whether or not they wanted to be discovered, or the consequences of the discovery. The fact is, if are minuscule beings, they have now been discovered, and they can not be undiscovered. I have other knowledge that assures me that no harm will come to them from earth humans. We would be severely dealt with if we tried to harm anything in space, or on other planets. That will be proven soon enough.

I believe there is a reason for all this being revealed. Even though it took over 30 years to discover these mini anomalies, I believe they were meant to be discovered. Otherwise, I believe they would have done it differently. They must have know it was only a matter of time before someone thought to study the ground in Apollo photos. Before we can move on with our own space endeavors, we must snap out of the belief that, there is no other intelligent life in the universe except us. The truth is, intelligent life inhabits most of the planets in our own solar system.

The time is coming for us to meet some of our neighbors.

Piper




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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 14:06:50:

From studying the photos, I have found that the anomalies are not always the same scale. Even though they all seem to be long range anomalies, they were shot from different ranges and different angles. The ground images could be zoomed satellite images taken from space, or long range images taken from the air. It seems only the largest of the structures on the ground show up. I don't believe we had the technology to take those type of photos then and I'm not sure we do now. All I truly know at this point is, there are tiny/minuscule artificial structures on the surface in Apollo photos and no one has a reasonable explanation for them, and I don't believe there is any explanation but the truth, and that will have to come from NASA and the US Government.

I hope so for our sake. Actually I know so.

No one will be ready, because we live in a world of lies where people find it easier to live a lie than, accept and face the truth.

They know that too.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 16:33:48:

You really need to study the images before you can formulate an opinion. I studied the images on the site now for months. I KNOW they are artificial. I wouldn't have known that from the short amount of time you have been exposed to these images. Study is the key. Many things are placed a certain way, and many of the photos are rotated to capture structures from undiscernable angles. However if you rotate the photos, the structures come in to view.

Whether they are mini or macro is a good question. The important thing to remember here is, they shouldn't be there at all.

We are not alone dude, never have been, never will be.

Like I said before, the images require study (just like any long range image does). If you don't want to "really" know what is on the ground in Apollo photos then, don't study the images. However, your opinion will be worthless (and wrong) to anyone who does take the time to study the images and see the truth for themselves.

I agree, those who mouth off before doing some study, usually don't become intelligent. There are a lot of people on Earth like that.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 12:12:22:

No one has ever explained these mini-anomalies, because the only explanations are (1) They are the result of astronauts being
super-imposed onto a series of long range images of a planet's surface (it may really be the moon).
(2)There are tiny (minuscule) beings on the moon, or (3) Every Apollo photo and video is totally fake and there is no
realism to them at all. Those are the ONLY explanations. There are NO other explanations.

I don't care if you are in denial, because eventually the truth will be forced on you. However don't go around saying
these anomalies have been explained because they haven't even been addressed.

Piper

Apollo Anomalies 1, 2, and 3 (more coming)


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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 12:23:30:

The explanation you offer still requires NASA and whoever else was involved to come clean with the TRUTH.

It's no longer a secret.

At least you didn't try to explain 'away' the mini anomalies.

Piper


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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 12:35:33:

NASA will still have to explain them anyway.

Sorry Charlie, you can't explain away the anomalies like that. Did the camera have an overactive imagination?

It's time for you to get a new excuse, that one is worn out.

The claim is not only still being made, it is backed up by the video. The rover is not even in the photo and the video proves it.

There are links at my site to other sites. Maybe you should look before you run your mouth.

Piper


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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 12:03:52:
Yes, let's see some anomalies from your back yard.

If you think they compare to mini towers and mini triangle space crafts and mini saucers and mini structures (etc) on the moon
then they should be very interesting.

However, I know you're just talking out of you azz, so look at the images on the site and weep because your Apollo fantasy
is coming to a bitter end.

Piper



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Posted by Piper on August 04, 2001 at 12:48:08:

Whatever harm that comes from revealing the truth is not my responsibility. That responsibility falls on those who created the lies. You do them more harm by teaching them to deny the truth.

I agree. Most of our earth space science is a crock of bull, and a lot of people will be mad when they find they were taught lies. They may even demand their tuition be reimbursed (I would).

Seems the people in those better educated countries already feel the Apollo missions were faked. There is something to be said for education in foreign countries.

Unfortunately, I'm not joking. There is something VERY WRONG about the Apollo program and these mini anomalies are only a small portion of the evidence (but a very compelling portion).

It's sad you have such a problem believing what you see with your own two eyes, or that NASA and the US Government would lie.

It's will be much easier if you accept the reality of the serious descrepancies in the Apollo missions, rather than trying to deny them and insult the intelligence of the people who are bring these discrepancies to your attention. That will only come back to haunt you, it doesn't affect me at all, nor will it stop the truth from getting spread around the world for everyone to see for themselves.

Piper


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Posted by Iceman on August 13, 2001 at 11:56:22:

I have read your thoughts on the moon landing. I am still a disbeliever. You ramble and ramble and at times make almost no sense. I don't care to see any more of your articles or hear you toot your own horn. You have some very good points about the moon landings, sadly they are burried in your jibber jabber. If people like myself, electrical engineer, choose to believe the landings were faked, that is our right. Of coursed NASA will never come out and say, yes we faked the moon landings in order to fight the cold war.

Soon Japan will have its own moon surveryer. Hopefully they will or will not find conclusive proof. The video from Clementine has fantastic shots of crators, mountains and rocks. The only bad shots are of one of the landing sites. The picture quality goes from stunning to terrible. Why is that? We also have what is possible one of mans greatest inventions, the Hubble Telescope. Why is it never been allowed to take photos of the landing sites? Don't tell me the camera's are too sensative, as I said I am an EE. The cameras on Hubble are very capable of taking photos of the landing sites.

So in conclusion, you can dog out this posting, I'm sure you will. I will not visit your site again. I can only suggest that in the future you try to keep more of an open mind and not impose your will on others. Don't bother emailing me, I don't want to hear from you or your cronies.



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Piltdown
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Posted - 08/14/2001 :  10:44:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Piltdown an AOL message  Send Piltdown a Yahoo! Message Send Piltdown a Private Message
Thanks for saving and posting these, Randy. They are a striking demonstration of the fundamentally authoritarian arrogance of the HBers, and of science bashers in general. They will pretend that it is they who are challenging authority, by taking on the mighty scientific establishment. In fact, all of these posts are riddled with unsupported declarations of personal authority, and many layers of presumed authority and power. This is especially true of Piper, who, in all honesty, shows some very specific characteristics of alcoholism. This includes a pronounced tendency to make unsupported declarations to another person about the contents of the other person's mind: what they are thinking, what their motives are, and what their capabilities are; an implied claim of absolute control and knowledge. This is a presumption of psychotic dimensions, the actual claim to know another person better than the other person does. Anyone who has ever been around alcoholics will recognize this behavior.
Piper's apparent immunity to being disproved, as well as to abuse and humiliation, is another quality he shares with abusive alcoholics. I know from experience that a drunk can be beaten to a bloody pulp and still be sure that he has won. You can spit in his face, and he will gloat about humiliating you.
During the flame duel the other night, I twisted Piper's own words into an invitation for him to kiss my ass. He went on as though it was I who had been slammed. He retreated from Lisa's challenge to "put up or shut up", then I did what he had refused to do by accusing him personally of criminal conduct. The arrogant bastard then gave me the same kind of challenge he had just chickened out on: "put up or shut up". There is a difference, he could have "put up" on the message board since Lisa challenged him to accuse her personally. His challenge to me required that I file a lawsuit, something I cannot do on a message board, over a weekend no less.
Iceman may or not be a drunk, he is simply a stupider version of Piper. He claims that Hubble can image the Apollo site and bases this solely on his own alleged authority as an electrical engineer. If this cretin is an EE, I am Jerry Falwell.
I am not defaming Piper by pointing out the characteristically alcoholic patterns in his behavior. I don't know whether he is a drunk, dry or otherwise; but if something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck; then it is not libelous to speculate about the possibility that it really is a duck.

In fact, the HBs are one kind of authority, presumed personal authority, attempting to assert themselves at the expense of science, which they and their likely supporters will misperceive and misrepresent as a system of authority. Is it any surprise that the moon hoax and other anti-science conspiracy theories are so popular with fascist and retro-red political extremists, as well as with individuals whose compulsive power-seeking is driven by personal neurosis?

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Lisa
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You know, there are times where I can almost feel sorry for the guy. He's so desperate for someone, anyone to believe him. What goes on in a head like that? I went to his anomaly page for a look. I was serious when I told him that his "spaceship" looks like an alligator head. It's one thing to be able to pick out shapes, it shows some good imagination. It's quite another to believe the shapes are real. If I see a cloud that looks like a dragon, I'm not going to wrap my house in asbestos.
For those of you out there who might still wish to respond to his posts, I noticed he retreated rather quickly after the challenge to put up or shut up. A good tactic would be to ask him to name names. He'll probably reply with his "denial" drivel, or perhaps more pictures, but keep hammering at him. It would be interesting if he would fess up a name or two at NASA, but I doubt if he ever will. Even he has to know that would cross the line into libel. But if he does, there's plenty of us waiting.
Dang, I shouldn't have made that crack to him about the alligator. Prepare to be treated to theroies about fossilized reptiles on the moon.
Lisa

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Zandermann
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quote:
(Piltdown) ...Piper, who, in all honesty, shows some very specific characteristics of alcoholism. ...
You know, I've been trying for a long time (ever since I first ran across his posts) to put my finger on just what it is about his attitude/method of reasoning that rings a bell with me.

I believe you have something here, Piltdown...now that you mention it, Pipesqueak *does* remind me of an alcoholic I know very well.

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quote:
Posted by Piper on June 11, 2001 at 14:05:19:

I'm sure you have a lot of bad names for people who tell you truth that you don't want to hear.

Calling a messenger of truth a troll, does not change the truth, nor does it deter this particular messenger.

No one even NOTICED that image for over THIRTY years. NASA was confident no one ever would. You never would have noticed it had to not been pointed out to you.

That photo was linked to the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal. Those photos can be found in other places besides the internet, and they are the same no matter where they come from. They are as fake as the Apollo missions themselves.

You have not discounted or explained away even one discrepancy in the image. A bunch of meaningless words strung together does not an explanation make.

Hon, rational thinking does not equate to thinking up new excuses to stay in denial. I suggest you re-check the definition.

Piper


Gee, that was a response to my rational debate with him regarding those photos.

Immemorialized by Piper as Hon. Ick!

He's YOUR god, they're YOUR rules, YOU burn in hell!
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Lisa
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quote:

Immemorialized by Piper as Hon. Ick!


Kinda gives you a creepy crawly feeling on your skin, don't it?
Lisa

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Rift
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Thanks Randy, those are great :)

quote:
I am not defaming Piper by pointing out the characteristically alcoholic patterns in his behavior. I don't know whether he is a drunk, dry or otherwise; but if something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck; then it is not libelous to speculate about the possibility that it really is a duck.


I would tend to agree, Piltdown. I'm not sure if he's acoholic or not but there is something wrong with him. The fact that we go so long without anything from him, and then a flurry of his nonsense makes be wonder if he's bipolar. (Again, not to belittle people with this, I'm related to several and have no time for people who make fun of this disorder, but I seriously wonder about Piper.)

I'm also thinking about asking Phil to host a small webpage of mine debunking Piper's famous (or infamous) 'igloo' picture. I actually enjoyed searching the ALSJ in debunking that and it was fun coming up with an overwhelmingly obvious answer. I know it won't convince Piper (at this point I couldn't care less what Piper thinks) but I think it would illustrate how just a few minutes of research can turn up evidence that is hard for the HBers to deny. (Piper's only response to it was a deluginal "It's all fake!!!" lol)

Which reminds me, with school starting up again, we'll probably see a lot more activity on the BABB and Phil's site will probably get a lot more hits from school kids.

Which is the real reason we need to debunk idiots like Piper...

"Goddammit! The world is just filling up with more and more idiots! And the computer is giving them access to the world! They're
spreading their stupidity! At least they were contained before--now they're on the loose everywhere!"?
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Lisa
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quote:

I'm also thinking about asking Phil to host a small webpage of mine debunking Piper's famous (or infamous) 'igloo' picture. I actually enjoyed searching the ALSJ in debunking that and it was fun coming up with an overwhelmingly obvious answer. I know it won't convince Piper (at this point I couldn't care less what Piper thinks) but I think it would illustrate how just a few minutes of research can turn up evidence that is hard for the HBers to deny. (Piper's only response to it was a deluginal "It's all fake!!!" lol)


I think that's a great idea! If the BA goes for it, could you add something else? Could you also provide explanations of how you debunk "igloo" pictures and others like it? Sure, kids mights looks at some HB's picture and think "Wow". An explanation would give them the ::slaps head:: "I get it now".
There's plenty of pseudo-HBs out there who aren't in it for their beliefs. They're in it for the bucks. Show these scam artists for what they are.
Lisa

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Randy
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Interesting write up Piltdown. I too, wonder about alcohol/drug damage with the Pipehead. Although someone can be idiotic naturally.

When one keeps Piper's lack of thinking skills - learning dysfunction in mind, and look elsewhere for similar folks,....those with delusions of reality in mainstream life - superstitions, creationism, astrology, - on and on, then Piper is far from alone in the world.
Many times the "mental denseness" in his posts could etch lunar rocks. I've known a few racists who have similar thinking problems. Truely bizarre/retarted thought processes. Lots of 'em out there folks.

Wonder what the pathology is for these individuals who get so hung in their shallow ways, - so much into self-denial of evidences presented? - so resistant to change? Some kind of brain infarction.

A Piper likeness would make quite a ironic gargoyle on some University's Astronomy building. Perhaps the BA's!




Edited by - randy on 08/16/2001 19:32:00
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Randy
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Cool Rift, on the debunking Peeper. One of my fond memories over at the BA board was when you posted your find of that Apollo realplayer sequence that just blew Piper out of orbit!

Maybe you could do a SFN presentation here first. Start it as a new topic. Nail his butt to the wall again; get another standing ovation!

"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."
Groucho Marx.
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Randy:

Thank you for taking the time to collect these Piper posts. However, Piper's continuous ranting gets to be a bit much. It is also kind of sad when one realizes how much *he* is missing.

I really thought that Piper was female, because of the tone of the posts and the choice of words. Therefore, I must admit my error. There are a lot of Pipers out there. Few of them visit here, because we have our own line of defense, and some of the writers here can throw it back as fast as the Pipers of the web can dish it out.

Are you really certain that Piper is/was a male?

Beats me.

I did not read all of it. It gets tiresome. I will go back and read more later. I usually like to read posts where I can learn from them. One has to be careful on the web, however. My scientist friends have warned me about science on the web. They have suggested that I frequent sites with .edu and .gov (or similar dot somethings in the URLs).

Thanks again.

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I really thought that Piper was female, because of the tone of the posts and the choice of words. Therefore, I must admit my error. There are a lot of Pipers out there. Few of them visit here, because we have our own line of defense, and some of the writers here can throw it back as fast as the Pipers of the web can dish it out.

Are you really certain that Piper is/was a male?

Beats me.




I happen to be female and this truly shows my unreasonable bias against a *female* way of thinking -- full of ad hominems and full of irrational statements. Of course, this is nonsense on my part... Naughty bad!

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I know what you mean ljbrs. I too grow tired of it at times. Luckily he just comes and goes, - gone more than not!

I assumed he's male, - by his male Neanderthal slope-headed charm, his brain-stem verbiage, the "maleism" in his petty put downs like..."you'll be flippin' burgers....I like my burgers medium....when you'll be changing my tires and pumping my gas." (course these were cheap shots at the BA! - enter big laugh here! :-D )
Think the Peeper is quote up top of rebuilding old cars in his backyard. Certainly a woman can perform down to Piper's level also.

I recall another HB poster several months ago who was back and forth with his very similar rant. He would go on and on and not have anything to say, just a lot of huff like Piper. This other guy, towards the end of his few days of posts, mentions about how his dad has the "bitchinist" pickup around! All these guys must work on cars/pickups! Think Piper was around then and did his typical paternal patronizing post to the HB'er.

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It would be funny, if Pipesqueak were not such a mini-anomaly himself...

At least, though, his own self-parody and over-the-top way of expressing himself should make it clear to anyone that he's not to be taken seriously.

"If in the last few years you haven't discarded a major opinion or acquired a new one, check your pulse. You may be dead."
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"If in the last few years you haven't discarded a major opinion or acquired a new one, check your pulse. You may be dead."


I have a different method. I do not easily adopt new ideas until I have checked them thoroughly, looked into the research as much as possible, etc. Therefore, I am less likely to discard anything which I have really checked out, except when new, contrary, information comes along to take its place.

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This Pooper character has a lot of nerve talking about people who feel good lines of crap from "authority figures." It's funny how this guy exhibits the very qualities that he seems to hate so much.

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