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the_ignored
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 Posted - 05/14/2004 : 23:03:06
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It's late, I'm half dead tired and I can't get to sleep. So, I go on the web:
I can't possibly be seeing what I'm seeing here. For the love of god, they even have links to the "updated protocols" book!
And this bit of weirdness...
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
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 Posted - 05/14/2004 : 23:48:32 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by the_ignored
It's late, I'm half dead tired and I can't get to sleep. So, I go on the web:
I can't possibly be seeing what I'm seeing here. For the love of god, they even have links to the "updated protocols" book!
I only quickly scanned the site. Reminded me of Chaim Potok's 'The Chosen', were there is a deep dividing line between different jewish groups at a point over whether zionism is the correct way to follow. Some of the books they offer seemed a bit fishy, but I don't know enough to really say anything about it.
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And this bit of weirdness...
I still have not seen the film, and can not imagine why anyone would want to see it. I think it a bit hard to believe that the film is staged though. |
Tom
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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Woody D
Skeptic Friend
Thailand
285 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2004 : 23:53:37 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by the_ignored
I can't possibly be seeing what I'm seeing here. For the love of god, they even have links to the "updated protocols" book!
Not sure what you are trying to say with this post.
But:
My brother recently explained why the Jews are supposed to be in Iseral. Until then I thought they should or could go elsewhere (and maybe not cause so much trouble) but he said, if I remember correctly, that it's in the bible that they have to be in that spot, 'cause it's Palistine or something, some sort of holly land where they came from, not sure. It's all so confusing!
But since the bible is a bunch of nonsense, why should they have to be there? Hum! Is that what you don't understand?
Since that website mentioned something about Jews not agreeing with other Jews, I might tell you, although I'm myself not a Jew my parents were, I know what they are like. Or I should say, some Jews, LOL.
However, why is it that any given group of peoples have to fit in one certaion category? Just because you are either Asian or white, doesn't mean you think like every other person in that group. |
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rickm
Skeptic Friend
Canada
109 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2004 : 10:53:07 [Permalink]
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I have watched the video a few times, and have noticed a few inconsistencies, however the video is of poor quality and details are hard to discern. Things I did notice. During the speech the speaker flips through the papers quite a bit without stuttering while trying to find his place. The person speaking (black mask) draws the knife. When all finished it is a different guy (white mask) holding the blade and head. This shows perhaps that the video had been edited. Another thing that strikes me as being odd is the lack of blood during the ordeal. I just watched a show on discovery or one of those documentary channels regarding the guillotine, it was said that during a beheading there was lots of blood produced. The lack of blood could however be because of the poor quality of video.
I am not trying to say that there is a big conspiracy behind the video, or that it lessens the intolerable cruelty that one man and his family has suffered. I feel that it does raise some questions.
To comment on this is difficult, as it entails far too much speculation instead of evidence. It would not be improbable though that the video is not showing us what actually happened, only what whomever made the video wanted us to think happened. When the whole story on private Lynch was released, what we originally saw was not what really happened.
It's too bad that with all the deception that has occurred it leaves events like this to be picked at. In no way is my intention to lessen the severity of this action, or to downplay the grief that family is feeling. Sometimes I wonder if we would not be better off not knowing what is taking place.
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How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter?
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
2562 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2004 : 14:03:08 [Permalink]
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| Could it be that the guy was already dead when they chopped his head off? I never saw the video myself. |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
1278 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2004 : 14:11:10 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Woody D
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Originally posted by the_ignored
I can't possibly be seeing what I'm seeing here. For the love of god, they even have links to the "updated protocols" book!
Not sure what you are trying to say with this post.
But:
My brother recently explained why the Jews are supposed to be in Iseral. Until then I thought they should or could go elsewhere (and maybe not cause so much trouble) but he said, if I remember correctly, that it's in the bible that they have to be in that spot, 'cause it's Palistine or something, some sort of holly land where they came from, not sure. It's all so confusing!
But since the bible is a bunch of nonsense, why should they have to be there? Hum! Is that what you don't understand?
Since that website mentioned something about Jews not agreeing with other Jews, I might tell you, although I'm myself not a Jew my parents were, I know what they are like. Or I should say, some Jews, LOL.
However, why is it that any given group of peoples have to fit in one certaion category? Just because you are either Asian or white, doesn't mean you think like every other person in that group.
From what I understood from 'the Chosen', at the time of the birth of the state Israel a lot of conservative Jews were opposed against the idea of Jews themselves creating the homeland. Israel was supposed to come about at the hands of God, in stead of being created by the Jews themselves. |
Tom
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll- |
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Woody D
Skeptic Friend
Thailand
285 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2004 : 14:21:33 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by tomk80
From what I understood from 'the Chosen', at the time of the birth of the state Israel a lot of conservative Jews were opposed against the idea of Jews themselves creating the homeland. Israel was supposed to come about at the hands of God, in stead of being created by the Jews themselves.
Thank you for explaining. I don't know anything about that but my brother was a history major, he's a teacher and I think he's Jewish, I'm sure he has further knowledeg. Although I don't really care where the Jews find a home, haha. They are like the Chinese, seems like they are everywhere in the world. |
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Mick Shrimpton
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rickm
Skeptic Friend
Canada
109 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2004 : 16:19:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by the_ignored
Could it be that the guy was already dead when they chopped his head off? I never saw the video myself.
This is a possibility that has been circulating on various message boards. I have heard one other explanation, not sure if it is valid or not, but they say that he could have been heavily sedated, which would minimize blood preasure. Not being a doctor I can not say if this is a possibility. |
How can I believe in God when just last week I got my tongue caught in the roller of an electric typewriter?
-- Woody Allen, Without Feathers, 1975 |
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