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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 09/24/2004 :  20:20:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
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Verlch:
I'm not going to sit quietly by and watch Evolution obtain any sort of status.

Ooops, too late. Evolution is the cornerstone of biology. It has serious status...
quote:
Verlch:
I've made that choice on my own and give me death, I'll never change that belief.

So you are saying that you have a closed mind. Whatever.....

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2004 :  20:41:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
verlch wrote:
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Well your not very nice.
No, I'm just pointing out the obvious: that you, telling us that you are "happy" to be a sinner, are in no position to judge anyone else, or anything else.
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What did you just get back from a meeting with the Devil himself today?
Yes, I replied to your posts. Only Satan could have the hubris you do.
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I didn't say I was perfect and if I die with the rest of the wicked than so be it.
I didn't say you were perfect, either. I only pointed out that your "LORD and Saviour" teaches that those who aren't perfect cannot sit in judgement of others as if they were. You have been doing quite a bit of that. You need to remember your humility, which Jesus also taught.
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I'm still not going to deny my Maker.
Is anyone here asking you to? No. Didn't think so.
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And I will tell anyone around me what, by faith, I think is the truth.
You know by faith that the Washington Monument is supposed to represent a titantic wang? You have a very strange idea of what 'faith' is, I think.
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If that damns me than so be it. God says He knows the start from the finish, and if He denies me access to his kingdom that be gone with me.
Ah, so now you've just told me that you can do anything you want, and the results - after you die - are simply God's Divine Will. That has got to be the absolute best "get out of guilt free" card I've ever seen. It is astounding you can spout such crap, and still claim that you believe in God at all. Faith isn't supposed to be a selfish enterprise, verlch. The rules God set are supposed to make you behave here on Earth, not tear-ass around, spewing hateful crap at every opportunity. Does Jesus' sacrifice really mean so little to you?
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But I will not sit by and watch the radical evolutionists scream from the highest mountain that God is Dead.
How many times do you need to be told that evolution does not deny God? Instead, even time you suggest it does, you are claiming that you know God, another massive act of hubris.
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If not God than Darwin, no thanks.
False dichotomies lead to bad decisions, verlch. You are tremendously misinformed on the subjects of both God and evolution, yet you've come to a decision anyway. Sort of like saying, "gee, should I buy an Edsel or a Pinto?" and then flipping a coin. Tremendous amounts of information are available on both subjects, yet you'll only listen to the most-radical of sources, ignoring the vast majority of mainstream views. You're an extremist, verlch.
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Evolution is nothing more than wishful thinking.
No, that's your wishful thinking.
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I'm not going to sit quietly by and watch Evolution obtain any sort of status.
It's too late for that. It's been too late for that for over 100 years! As far as most biologists are concerned, evolution is it. It has all the status. There simply is no other scientific choice in the matter.
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I need evolution like I need another hole in my skull.
That's absolutely correct. Evolution can do you - you, verlch - no possible good any more. You should simply ignore it. It's not even worth your time to scream lies about it.
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Till the day I breath my last breath, evolution is nothing more than an avenue to obtain an existance by way, other than God.
Many evolutionary biologists who have more faith than you would be shocked to hear you say so.
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I've made that choice on my own and give me death, I'll never change that belief.
Yes, you're willing to die for a lie. No, I'm not talking about God, I'm talking about your ideas about what evolution is. They're all lies, and you've just said you're willing to die for them, without even bothering to find out why they are lies.

You're being decieved, verlch, and you're betting your everlasting soul on that deception. You seriously need to think about this some more.

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verlch
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Posted - 09/24/2004 :  23:35:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
What that I don't want to obtain my existance from fish and monkies? For that, even pimordial soup. I as Verlch have purpose in this life, even if you don't believe it. I'm not a super monkey, jumping around screaming at the top of my lungs. Evolution is a deception from the start my radical pal. It is the exact opposite of creation. There is no debating this. If I'm damned than so be it, I'm not going to sit around pretending evolution is true. Sure I can't prove it to you with, I was there.

Take the tongue for instance, this is the most interesting of parts of the human body. Where did this evolve from, soup? Yes the simple toungue, able to preform a multitude of tasks, yet arising out of chance. Please kill me now.

My ex watched a man die today. She could tell there was no life left in him. Science has stated that a human body is lighter after death, albeit not that much, but still lighter. She watched his soul leave human flesh. This man was somebody she cared about, and she watched him die. She's watched several humans die. She didn't believe in God before she met me. Maybe she doesn't believe in God all that much now, but she, as a woman, has a sense of death. All of us humans will die someday, hence you will see truth at its moment. She is a good woman, and means well. I will always love her.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
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Posted - 09/25/2004 :  00:04:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Babylon was the first great nation after the flood. They tried to build the tower of Babel, hence good confused all language so they couldn't complete it, that explains the 6000 different tongues used in this world. They also created Baal worship, and human sacrificing. They also invented loose women, what's not to like about them!!!


Lieslieslieslies. Verlch, doesn't your fucking god tell you not to lie? No, Babylon wasn't the "first great nation" after the flood. Babylon was a minor player in southern Mesopotamia until ca. 1700 BC. Before it, important cities like Umma, Ur, Isin, and Larsa held sway over the area.

And no, the biblical reason for varied languages on this planet aren't in sync with the evidence. Similarly, your evidence for Babylon's importance in human sacrifice is worthless, as it consists of a few dip-shit websites with contradictory arguments.

As for "loose women", well, I've found that the only people who complain about that are god-worshipping, decrepit, ugly and/or old men and women. The reaons for this aren't clear. Oh wait-- yes they are. Nevermind...
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 09/25/2004 :  00:55:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
verlch wrote:
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What that I don't want to obtain my existance from fish and monkies? For that, even pimordial soup.
Well, nobody else here "obtained" there lives from fish, monkies or primordial soup. They live because of their parents. Why shouldn't you?
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I as Verlch have purpose in this life, even if you don't believe it.
You're screaming so loud you can't hear people respond to you. I have purpose in this life. The difference between us is that you allow some invisible god to dictate your purpose to you (and that purpose is to serve that god's egotistical needs), while I have created my own purpose (which, in my opinion, is much more fulfilling).
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I'm not a super monkey, jumping around screaming at the top of my lungs.
Neither am I.
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Evolution is a deception from the start my radical pal. It is the exact opposite of creation. There is no debating this.
Apparently, there is, as you keep trying to do so. How is it that you know, for example, that God didn't create the first living things on the Earth, and force them to "evolve" in certain ways? This sort of creation would be undetectable by science, and science hasn't found any evidence of it yet (go figure). You cannot say this did not happen, unless you're willing to say that the Bible is completely error-free. But if the Bible is error-free, then you, sir, are in for a world of hurt after your death. You have sinned many times here.
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If I'm damned than so be it, I'm not going to sit around pretending evolution is true.
Nobody is asking you to pretend evolution is true. We're asking you to stop telling lies about it, which you - in your admitted ignorance of the subject - do almost every time you post. I don't pretend Santa Claus is real, but I also don't tell children that he wants to eat them, either.
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Sure I can't prove it to you with, I was there.
No, you set that task for yourself, and now you're admitting your failure. Thank you.
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Take the tongue for instance, this is the most interesting of parts of the human body.
Oh, the most interesting? It's not the brain, which - according to you - is more complex than the universe?
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Where did this evolve from, soup? Yes the simple toungue, able to preform a multitude of tasks, yet arising out of chance.
No, not arising out of chance. This is another lie you've been taught about evolution, verlch, and yet...
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Please kill me now.
...you're willing to die for that lie.
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Science has stated that a human body is lighter after death, albeit not that much, but still lighter.
No, one "scientist" claimed that, long ago, and has since been discredited. Bodies do not get lighter at the moment of death. Are you willing to die for this lie, too?

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verlch
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Posted - 09/25/2004 :  01:31:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Babylon was the first great nation after the flood. They tried to build the tower of Babel, hence good confused all language so they couldn't complete it, that explains the 6000 different tongues used in this world. They also created Baal worship, and human sacrificing. They also invented loose women, what's not to like about them!!!


Lieslieslieslies. Verlch, doesn't your fucking god tell you not to lie? No, Babylon wasn't the "first great nation" after the flood. Babylon was a minor player in southern Mesopotamia until ca. 1700 BC. Before it, important cities like Umma, Ur, Isin, and Larsa held sway over the area.

And no, the biblical reason for varied languages on this planet aren't in sync with the evidence. Similarly, your evidence for Babylon's importance in human sacrifice is worthless, as it consists of a few dip-shit websites with contradictory arguments.

As for "loose women", well, I've found that the only people who complain about that are god-worshipping, decrepit, ugly and/or old men and women. The reaons for this aren't clear. Oh wait-- yes they are. Nevermind...



Tower of Babel is in the bible pal. God confused the words of the men trying to build the tower of Babel. How do you miss that in the bible.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 09/25/2004 :  02:20:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Babylon was the first great nation after the flood. They tried to build the tower of Babel, hence good confused all language so they couldn't complete it, that explains the 6000 different tongues used in this world. They also created Baal worship, and human sacrificing. They also invented loose women, what's not to like about them!!!


Lieslieslieslies. Verlch, doesn't your fucking god tell you not to lie? No, Babylon wasn't the "first great nation" after the flood. Babylon was a minor player in southern Mesopotamia until ca. 1700 BC. Before it, important cities like Umma, Ur, Isin, and Larsa held sway over the area.

And no, the biblical reason for varied languages on this planet aren't in sync with the evidence. Similarly, your evidence for Babylon's importance in human sacrifice is worthless, as it consists of a few dip-shit websites with contradictory arguments.

As for "loose women", well, I've found that the only people who complain about that are god-worshipping, decrepit, ugly and/or old men and women. The reaons for this aren't clear. Oh wait-- yes they are. Nevermind...



Tower of Babel is in the bible pal. God confused the words of the men trying to build the tower of Babel. How do you miss that in the bible.

I didn't miss it. I've always thought that it was a pretty amazing feat of engineering and construction for peoples with no more than Bronze Age technology. How high was it intended, again? To the very heavens, you say?

Assuming, of course that it's not just another yarn, like Noah's Ark and the Noahican Flood. One might ask exactly how such a construct might threaten the all-powerful creator of the universe, hmmm? Is God that big a wussy?


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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2004 :  07:53:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by verlch
Tower of Babel is in the bible pal. God confused the words of the men trying to build the tower of Babel. How do you miss that in the bible.


Trust me, verlch, I didn't "miss" anything. But here's the reality: the city of Babylon was a minor player in the political landscape of southern Mesopotamia until Hammurapi, ca. 1792-1750 using the so-called Middle Chronology. Unfortunately, this doesn't mesh well with the biblical 'Tower of Babel' story. (This isn't to say that Babylon didn't exist before Hammurapi-- the name itself is largely believed to be neither Sumerian or Akkadian, and therefore it is likely that it was founded before the emergence of the Sumerian-speakers in Mesopotamia.)

Despite its age, it does not show up in the written records of third millennium southern Mesopotamia with the sort of frequency we would expect of a major military/political power. Additionally, we might expect that the remains of a tower strecthing to the stratosphere (PS: why in the living hell would Yahweh care if people built a really tall tower? He doesn't actually live in the clouds, does he?!?) would be a little more visible in the archaeological record. Alas, they are not.

Also troubling in the attempt to mesh biblical myth with reality is the emergence of language. The Bible suggests that before the Towel of Babel incident, the world-- or at least the people of southwest Asia-- spoke one language. But we know that by the emergence of Babylon that many languages were or had been spoken in southern Mesopotamia-- Sumerian, Akkadian (including both the Babylonian and Assyrian dialetcs), Elamite, Eblaite, Hurrian, Amorite, and others, to say nothing of Egyptian, Hittite, and other languages spoken elsewhere in the world.

Indeed, we have clear evidence that at least by 3000 BC there was more than one language being spoken on earth. Yet in 3000 Babylon was not even a major regional power, and there is certainly nothing to suggest a massive building project such as the Tower.

So the question is this: do we blindly follow the notion that there really was an attempt to build a tower to the sky that was foiled by a frightened god through the crafty introduction of multiple languages despite the overwhealming contradictory evidence? Or do we suppose that the story serves a symbolic purpose, as well as an aetioligical one (why are there many languages?), and, of course, a really bad pun (Babel, the city, and balal, the Hebrew word meaning "to confuse")?

Neither forces one to reject god or religion. However, the latter has the added benefit of actually functioning within the world of facts and reality.
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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 09/25/2004 :  08:15:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
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What that I don't want to obtain my existance from fish and monkies?

What if GOD wants you to obtain your existence from fish and monkeys? What if the Theory of Evolution was divinely inspired, as much as the New Testament, which contradicts the Old?

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All of us humans will die someday, hence you will see truth at its moment.

Oh, no kiddin'. And what are YOU doing to present yourself to your LORD? Divorcing, hating, judging, lying... sinning. I hope you get to repent before you die. I seriously do. In case your God's real, anyway, you should be worried.

Edited out the meanness

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
Edited by - Siberia on 09/25/2004 09:23:06
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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 09/25/2004 :  08:26:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
ROFLMAO. Excuse me, I missed your comments on me and on my country. I bet my professors (of Physics, Advanced Programming, Linear Algebra, Introduction to Computer Science) got the 'easy way out' too - hey, maybe she's had sex with the dean!

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Instead of being a good wife, that can build a strong household you want to be miss independant that needs a man like a fish needs a bike.

Precisely. I don't intend on being a broodmare, thank you very much.

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Bring em' on. Is that your little warrior women, the feminazi brigade? Watch out for the army of Judeo women, headlines read. They will stare you and tickle you to death. Fear them, for your time has come....lol....Prepare to be dazzled by their urrr rather manly looks. Do they have hair or are they bald? Are you sure their plumbing is femail?

No, honey, men make wars. We just sit and laugh.

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Oh wait are you in Brazil? That country is too poor to enforce the laws, nevermind. Men do as they please. I don't know anything about Brazil...Hmmm I guess, what do women in Brazil do that women in America don't. I think they are better quality of women. They are not going to nagg you day and night. Deny you sex. And are less likely to put out to the mail man when they are on a sex strike!!! aka punishment for paying all the bills.

Sibirthala if you are a westernized female, as which you are acting, I don't really care for your actions or the way you act. I like you as a human, just not any part of the Western Americanized female's ways, THE WAYS I detest, not the human being. Only when the pertain to me. I don't care if women make so much money they can live on Venus. So what. But when these outdated laws take my money, my house, my cars and I have to share it with a woman that has contributed nothing but grieve, then I'm angry. Women like sibena want to be equal, but then they want a monthly check, your house, your car after they leave you...I say that's whacked and I'm here in life to change that to. You want to leave, ok there is the door, take what's yours and goodbye. I'll have my kid 3.5 days a week and you the other 3.5 days. There its equal now be done with you.

Great! I don't care about what you think or do, either, so I'll just ignore the rest of your hurt-ego rant. Though, I believe if you came here, you'd be greatly disappointed.

Edited to cut off on a major rant.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
Edited by - Siberia on 09/25/2004 08:59:29
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R.Wreck
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By verlch:

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Verlch, please tell me your joking.
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I'm afraid he's not joking. His recent posts in this thread, however, confirm my suspicion that he fell out of the stupid tree, and hit every branch on the way down.

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Made no comment on that site pal. Just said take a look at it...no need to spin around on your radical high horse, is there?



OK, her's a comment on that site: These are some seriously deluded people, with a tenuous grip on reality. Why you would post that site as a reference in any discussion (other than one about the most whacked-out loonies on the internet) is a mystery.

And my horse in not a radical.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

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Ricky
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Posted - 09/25/2004 :  13:07:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
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And my horse in not a radical.


How do you know?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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verlch
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Posted - 09/25/2004 :  13:55:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
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Originally posted by Renae

Verlch, if you knew me, you'd know that few things bore me as profoundly as Biblical babble or black-helicopter-conspiracy-woo-woo rumors. You're welcome to whatever random, obscure, undocumented beliefs you choose to spout...I really don't care.

However, your beliefs about women make you a misogynist, and that I care about. Because unfortunately, some vulnerable woman is going to stumble onto you and be hurt terribly by your abuse.



You call that abuse? Than I'll be single. I've noticed that I can take care of my house fine, why do I need to support somebody that can leave me at the drop of a dime. Only because I'm not PC like everyone else. I believe my place is at the head of the household and I will rule my roost. Whats wrong with that.

Why should I have to work 70 hours a week, pay all the bills and still wake up to watch the baby crying, and do 50% of the housework and cook. Please I'd rather be single. So far I've never hit a woman and never plan to. Yet they have spit in my face, scratched my arms, left scares and made me bleed. Kicked me in the shins, broken dishes all the wall, and called the police on me. Who needs that chaos?

Even mid wives have tried to get my wives to leave me by judging me in the hospitals. Women like you, who believe that even hetersexual sex between a man and a woman is rape. Women who are likely to send you to Domestic Abuse classes just on the pretense that you might be a violent man, no proof nothing. Who needs that.

I'm a hard working man, and I deserve a hard working woman as my help mate. Someone that was raised to be a good woman, and will do anything to benefit her family before herself first.


When God created man in His own image, He gave him a distinctive nature and place in creation (Genesis 5:3; 9:6; I Corinthians 15:39; James 3:9). Man "is the image and glory of God" (I Corinthians 11:7), "made a little lower than the angels, and [God] hast crowned him with glory and honour" (Psalm 8:5; cf. Hebrews 2:9). As sovereign among the creatures, man had dominion over everything on earth (Genesis 1:26, 28). Being in God's image means we can do things God does, such as, talk (2:3; 8:13), rest and sit (2:2; Psalm 47:8), walk (Genesis 2:8), hear and talk (6:12; Exodus 16:12), smell (Genesis 8:21), reason, think, etc., and even have some features as God has, such as, a face and back (Exodus 33:20, 23), a mouth (Isaiah 1:20; Matthew 4:4), hands (Psalm 10:12; Isaiah 41:20), etc. This does not mean God has the same physical features man has, but that man can function, in part, like God does.

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http://www.crflight.org/dads/wifegift.htm

http://www3.sympatico.ca/bibleprophecy/genealogy.html

Man was created in Gods image and woman was created in mans image. The bible will tell you that. I don't dislike anyone, just don't have to like all the actions and behavior.

I want to marry a 'woman' not a manwoman. Not some woman that was raised to be a 'weak' man. Good women are very hard to find, one that will be a woman of the bible and Proverbs. A man is told to love his wife as Christ loves the church. That's what I intend to do. If I'm not good at ruling over a family how am I going to be good at ruling over anything in life. A wife has to submit to her husband and keep things running smoothly. Instead we have chaos in marriages with women running around in vanity and living for themselves.

Why do you think there are so many single women in America, raising boys to be the next criminals. Who wants to marry these woman and raise another mans children? I don't, these boys need rules, they need a strong male presence to guide them and give them structure. Girls need it also, in a big way. I've noticed that girls raised without a father are very sexually immoral. Sleep with lots of men, because they crave that male attention. Thus more abortions and teen age pregnancy.

Like I've stated before, do what ever you will, make a trillion dollars, be happy and be queit. But when your laws affect me and my happiness, then I'm at war with it. Did I want my wives to leave, NO!!! Was I too roll over and be submissive and loose my manhood to keep them around? NO!!! There is not enough time in the day to make demanding American woman happy with you. I would have to quit my job and be a full time ass kisser. To hell with that idea.

Begon with you and don't let the door slap you as you leave.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 09/25/2004 :  14:44:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message
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Instead of being a good wife, that can build a strong household you want to be miss independant that needs a man like a fish needs a bike.

Precisely. I don't intend on being a broodmare, thank you very much.

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Bring em' on. Is that your little warrior women, the feminazi brigade? Watch out for the army of Judeo women, headlines read. They will stare you and tickle you to death. Fear them, for your time has come....lol....Prepare to be dazzled by their urrr rather manly looks. Do they have hair or are they bald? Are you sure their plumbing is femail?

No, honey, men make wars. We just sit and laugh.


Great! I don't care about what you think or do, either, so I'll just ignore the rest of your hurt-ego rant. Though, I believe if you came here, you'd be greatly disappointed.

Edited to cut off on a major rant.
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Acutally woman have done a fine job of waging war when they think it has to be. Margrett thatcher and the Faulklens war and others.

Men wage wars to protect territory and perceived threats, so laugh all you want to, and run to get protected by men if your country ever gets invaded by an army. If two roosters are in the hen house, only one lives and gets the hens. If two lions meet each other in the jungle, war is on. Whoever wins gets the ladies, its all over the animal kingdom. If the female lionesses of the pride don't hunt and cook food for the male lion, he starves...lol...Those females are happy to hunt for the King of the Jungle.

Now human women did a good job for thousands of years of raising families. Now with the invention of evolution and feminism women are turning into clawers and women without principle. They say evolution is true, then man invented the bible to hold women back from forbidden fruits. Now women rise up and are mostly unmarriable. So who needs those attitudes.

Precisely. I don't intend on being a broodmare, thank you very much.

So your one of those chicks that when she was young and beutiful, didn't use her good looks to land a happy marriage that will last her into old age? Good for you, do you know how many angry women are out there that are over 50 and can't find a man that wants to put up with them? They are miserable, barren and missed a happy old aged life. Your too busy chacing around vanity. A career, before children, money doesn't buy happiness, woman. So after you've spent your life chancing an independent dream, you won't have any grandchildren to bake cookies for!

Or you could be like those lesbians that just find a man that will knock them up, leave him and make him pay childsupport. Then tell him that. Nothing short of detestable.

Or sperm donars that donate sperm and the woman comes after them for child support. God help us all. Those are the things I don't like. Live your life however you want to, just don't shoot the messenger.

Then there are the woman that say I don't need a man at all. I can be both the 'mother' and the 'father' lol....then the complain that there isn't any 'good' men around anymore. Yeah you raised them all, there lady.

What came first the chicken or the egg?

How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?

There are no atheists in foxholes

Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4

II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!

Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?

Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.

We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.

"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
Edited by - verlch on 09/25/2004 15:00:40
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 09/25/2004 :  14:57:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
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I'm not going to sit quietly by and watch Evolution obtain any sort of status.


... you'd be funny if you weren't so pathetic. Do you really fail to comprehend that evolution is the cornerstone of modern biology? To deny evolution is to deny the basis for medicine, among other things.

Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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