1. No fossilized tree has ever been shown to be more than 2,000 years old at its death.


2. We should be able to find fossilized trees older than 2,000 years at their deaths if the Earth is old.


3. Some unnamed guy bred billions of generations of fruit flies.


4. None of those fruit flies ever showed any hints of evolving.


5. But they were all unique.


6. Earth displays the same evidence of being manufactured as a watch.


7. Human brains defy nature.


8. There are more neurons in a human brain than there are stars in the universe.


9. The Bible contains truth.


10. Christians and Jews are executed for their beliefs today and will be in the future.


11. Saddam tried to rebuild Babylon.


12. At least one person was convinced of evolution by the Piltdown Man hoax.


13. "Learned men" (supposedly scientists) would kill people for not believing the world was flat 400 years ago.


14. Teachers wouldn't have jobs if they didn't believe in evolution.


15. Those same teachers can't explain individual humans' uniqueness.


16. There is no scientific explanation for clouds floating.


17. The teachers of our teachers were strong atheists.


18. Strong atheism promotes job security and ensures the publication of papers and books.


19. People who understand evolution think it means "we evolved from nothing."


20. There is no visible proof of evolution.


21. There are trillions of species extant today.


22. Cosmic accidents are worthless.


23. Nobody who understands evolution also glorifies God.


24. Earth is "what the universe would have been like if the Devil had controlled it."


25. "Lucifer was in heaven with God and he rejected Him."


26. "Isreal was God's choosen people and [they] rejected Him."


27. God lead the Israelites through the desert in a cloud.


28. The story of Noah and the Flood as found in the Bible is accurate.


29. The people here take joy in mocking Christians and Jews.


30. The dead are capable of knowledge.


31. We can't see evidence of macroevolution today.


32. Trees have existed for as long as the Earth.


33. There are upside-down fossilized trees with roots intact.


34. Only a global flood can explain such fossils.


35. Fossilized fish show evidence that they were gasping for air.


36. The same fossilized fish have broken backs and are twisted by a "global force."


37. Geological strata are "broken and smashed" in all directions.


38. Evolution "has no purpose" for humans breathing air.


39. We should be able to find 4,500-year-old fossilized bristlecone pines.


40. There are upside-down fossils of trees which show no signs of rot.


41. A global flood coupled with hydrological sorting and swimming humans explains the relative positions of fossils to one another.


42. A plethora of "missing links" should be found in the fossil record.


43. Such "missing links" would "prove" evolution.


44. Carbon dating is so error-prone that it is fair to call it fiction.


45. Ideas about the evolution of humans are falsified simply because verlch cannot "attest" to them.


46. The Earth can be carbon dated.


47. The process by which granite forms is unknown.


48. Scientists cannot explain how a mustard seed grows into a plant.


49. Evolution tells us that fish evolved into mammoths which evolved into elephants.


50. Evolution tells us that monkeys evolved from chaos.


51. There should be "millions and billions" of transitional fossils.


52. We have proved that fossilization happens easily.


53. To prove evolution, we need to provide an entire timeline of a species' evolution (implied: from the original lifeform on Earth).


54. Nobody's ever burned On the Origin of Species.


55. The Earth is 70% water.


56. The fact that people are complicated proves the existence of God.


57. The penalty of sin is death.


58. Bugs, plants, oxygen and soil were all required, together, at some point in the distant past.


59. Evolutionary theory tells us that water "magically" came into being.


60. When Noah's Ark is found, we will all "dismiss it as a fairy tale."


61. We wear clothes for no other reason but shame.


62. God made humans the "best" creatures on Earth.


63. That humans wear clothes proves the Bible to be correct.


64. Mustard seeds are simple.


65. Millions of fossilized trees have had their rings counted.


66. Trees petrify and then they die.


67. Sources of information which contradict one another should be trusted.


68. Volcanos and lava can exist on a planet which is "void and without form."


69. A fossilized tree which died when it was really old would "prove" evolution.


70. Without such a tree, the theory falls apart.


71. Trees should fossilize easily.


72. We "don't like" the idea of a Creator.


73. We attempt to "explain away facts."


74. We "champion life from nothing."


75. We ignore "strange facts."


76. We dismiss "strange facts" as lies.


77. Without even bothering to examine them.


78. verlch has given us "facts."


79. Explaining life without God is purposeless.


80. We think God's laws are difficult to follow.


81. Evolutionary theory leads people away from God.


82. Which is why people attack those who promote evolution.


83. We say that men and women "came from nothing."


84. We say that people are not answerable for their actions.


85. verlch's marriage problems stemmed from his evolutionist, feminazi wives.


86. Sexual equality doesn't equal a "happy life."


87. A high divorce rate is due to sexual equality.


88. The words "woman" and "female" derive from womens' innate subservience to men.


89. The Bible hasn't changed in 2,000 years.


90. The way Christians numbered the years might prove that God exists.


91. There's an ancient secret in an ancient library.


92. Phallic symbols prove that "Babylon still lives" (I have no idea what that means).


93. There is no evidence which would show if the chicken or the egg came first.


94. Obelisks originated in Babylon.


95. Obelisks are only phallic symbols.


96. Sun worship originated in Babylon.


97. Babylonians worshipped Saturn.


98. Evolution is a "fairy-tale theory."


99. There are items found in rocks which cannot be explained.


100. A picture of a lump of coal and a gold chain "proves" something.


101. Piltdown Man "worked" as a hoax until DNA evidence showed it to be wrong.


102. Sin, disease, and death are all Eve's fault.


103. We will all see God after death.


104. We should be able to feel the speed at which the Earth is moving through the universe.


105. verlch isn't "afraid to talk origins with anybody."


106. Gaia has something to do with witchcraft, as does astrology.


107. There should be six-winged birds around today.


108. verlch's father is a reputable source of information about evolution.


109. Evolution is comparable to 100 pennies tossed in the air.


110. We are funded by a rocket scientist.


111. The fossils are sorted in their strata according to how easily they could escape the Flood.


112. verlch's "father worked closely with a creationist."


113. Fossilized birds should look nothing like modern birds.


114. A hoaxed "dino-bird" is evidence against evolution.


115. Fossilized mammals should look nothing like modern mammals.


116. Bats are irreducibly complex.


117. Evolution tells people how things "should" be.


118. Fossilized poops prove only that things have been buried quickly.


119. Modern turtles look like ancient turtles.


120. Somebody said that verlch has a "doomsday attitude."


121. "Science" can't agree on what happened 4,500 years ago.


122. People are expected to be "evolutionists" to participate here.


123. No fossils show change over the last 400 million years.


124. People here have more faith in Darwin than verlch does in God.


125. The Bible is valid evidence within a debate of creationism vs. evolution.


126. We consider verlch a troll because he's not an "evolutionist."


127. The tree named 'Methusela' is evidence for the Biblical Flood.


128. The age of coral reefs has something to do with the age of the Earth.


129. The age of Niagara falls has something to do with the age of the Earth.


130. Calculating backwards with the current speed of the Moon's recession is a valid methodology.


131. Creationists must "zip the lip" in these forums.


132. verlch is "simply debating something that I consider a fairy tale, nothing less."


133. Evolution is a "faith based religion."


134. verlch has studied evolution, biology, geology, math, and science in general.


135. Wathcing PBS is the same as studying science.


136. Dinosaurs lived 280 billion years ago.


137. The universe is at least 12 trillion years old.


138. I'm not letting verlch speak his "peace."


139. Everything verlch has presented so far has been labeled 'lies'.


140. People here have not shown verlch any "missing links."


141. Mammoths evolved into elephants 485 million years ago.


142. People here cannot show fish evolving into mammoths.


143. The fossil record only covers the last 400 million years.

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A Singular Sea Turtle...
More than six feet long, weighing as much as 1400 pounds (636 kg), leatherbacks are the world's largest pelagic (ocean-going) turtles. They are also the only sea turtle with a soft, rubbery shell. (All others have hard, bony-plated shells.) Leatherbacks have special "../glossary.html" \l "ADAPTATION" that allow them to eliminate waste gases through their skin, so they can stay under water for extraordinarily long periods. Inside their bodies, they actually convert salt water to fresh water, ingesting the sea water around them and excreting the salt. Their bodies are insulated by a thick layer of fat -- another adaptation that is unique among turtles to leatherbacks.

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This giant turtle of the Cretacious seas did not have the heavy, many-plated shell characteristic of its land and fresh-water relatives. Instead, the shell of Archelon was reduced to a framework of struts, made from the bony ribs that grew out from its backbone. Most probably, the ribs were covered by a thick coat of rubbery skin like the modern leatherback sea turtle.

The limbs of this ancient sea turtle were transformed into massive paddles that would have cleaved the water in powerful, vertical strokes. The front flippers of Archelon were well developed, and would have provided the main propulsive force.
Like the modern leatherback turtle, Archelon probably fed on a diet of jellyfish, whose soft bodies were easily eaten by the reptile's weak jaws and toothless beak.

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One distinct characteristic of this gigantic marine turtle was its tremendous overbite. While Archelon's beak had no cutting edge, the turtle's heavy mandible, thick palate and hooked beak produced a deadly bite. Since the Archelon was a carnivore (meat-eater), this large, powerful jaw served the creature well. Its curved beak also kept food in its mouth while being crushed. The Archelon may have used its beak to dig for food, as well.

Additional characteristics of the Archelon include a long, narrow head and a pointed tail. While the average Archelon typically reached lengths of nine to 13 feet, the largest specimen found spanned 16 feet from snout to tail. Its shell alone measures seven feet, three inches.

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A hoaxed "dino-bird" is evidence against evolution.

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Two other “proofs” of evolution have since been tossed into the cosmic wastepaper basket: England's peppered moth and Archaeoraptor. Both have been used for many years to brainwash naive school children with the theory of evolution. Now it turns out that both were fakes.
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Chinese paleontologist Xu Xing contends that Archaeoraptor, long used by evolutionists as “proof” that birds evolved from dinosaurs, is a combination of two fossils: one of the body and head of a birdlike creature and the other of the tail of a dinosaur. Xing says he has found another fossil, in a private collection in China, that contains the mirror image of the supposed tail of the Archaeoraptor. National Geographic magazine published a note in its March 2000 issue saying that CT scans of the fossil appear to confirm Xing's observations and “revealed anomalies in the fossil's reconstruction.” The magazine said details “will be published as soon as the studies are completed.”
Translation: We have been lied to again!

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Ancient Bird, Study Says

Hillary Mayell
for National Geographic News
November 20, 2002

The principal part of a famously fabricated dinosaur fossil is an ancient fish-eating bird, scientists report.

The Archaeoraptor fossil was introduced in 1999 and hailed as the missing evolutionary link between carnivorous dinosaurs and modern birds. It was fairly quickly exposed as bogus, a composite containing the head and body of a primitive bird and the tail and hind limbs of a dromaeosaur dinosaur, glued together by a Chinese farmer. [See sidebar]
Initial CT scans suggested that the fossil might have been made up of anywhere from two to five specimens of two or more species. Chinese and American scientists now report that the fabricated fossil is made up of two species.

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Yanornis martini was first identified by Zhou Zhonghe and

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125. The Bible is valid evidence within a debate of creationism vs. evolution.

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61. We wear clothes for no other reason but shame.

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10. Christians and Jews are executed for their beliefs today and will be in the future.

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Concerns have been expressed that these attacks have been carried out directly by, or in connivance with, right-wing Hindu groups... These groups have spoken out strongly against the alleged forcible conversion of tribal people and others by Christian missionaries, justified attacks on Christians and their property and advocated their expulsion from India.

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Vietnam's largest ethnic group, the Kihn, are traditional Vietnamese. Since the communist takeover of South Vietnam in 1975, the Kihn majority has repressed all of Vietnam's 54 ethnic minorities and undertaken a program of assimilation to eliminate ancient tribal cultures. Repression has intensified as many of the tribal groups have begun to renounce animism and ancestor worship for Christianity. Repression has been particularly costly to Montagnards in the central highlands region.

During the Vietnam War, an estimated 50 percent of all Montagnard males were killed fighting alongside members of the United States Army Special Forces or Green Berets in the central highlands. Their past association with and continued fondness for Americans has made them particularly susceptible to Vietnamese attacks.

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In this way, Bishop Ussher computed that the earth had been created in 4004 BC and that the flood occurred in 2350 BC which was henceforth accepted as the "traditional" biblical date,( though there is rival literal interpretation similarly inspired, setting the date at 2459 BC)

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Dinosaurs lived 280 billion years ago.

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The Bible contains truth.

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80. We think God's laws are difficult to follow.

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