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verlch
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My marriage is rock-solid, actually. And if marriage itself ends, why do you think that will destroy the government? What does the one have to do with the other? There's nothing in the Constitution which says that the President or members of Congress need to be married to hold office.
Marriage is a God ordained institution as a union between a man and a woman. They become one flesh, and this is the way God designed the family unit. Hell made it war against itself and now we have problems!!!! High divorece. Prisons are full of men from single mother households!!! So that is my take and a little bit of my stand on the issue!!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Renae
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 06:16:27 [Permalink]
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V, it's extremely rude to ask someone if they take anti-depressants. I wouldn't ask even my own close friends and family that question; people's medical conditions are private. But you like to put people on the defensive because it makes you feel strong, right?
As it so happens, I don't take them. But I certainly would take them without hesitation if I needed them. It's abusive to assign shame to anyone for treating mental symptoms. And just so you know, because you are easily the most ignorant person I've cyber-met, depression is, at least in part, a biochemical condition (a serotonin imbalance.
I own about a dozen pair of shoes, most of which are running shoes. I actually hate buying shoes; my feet are very narrow and I end up having to pay a fortune for a pair that fit. So I don't own many.
And my former-almost-husband just bought me an expensive piece of jewelry for my birthday. He and I are still very close; he is an honorable and kind man.
I'm sorry that you can't relate to women as individuals and can only see them as your (largely incorrect) stereotypes. That could be partly why you have a series of ex-wives. Although I suspect the main reason is that you are abusive. |
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verlch
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 12:27:48 [Permalink]
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That could be partly why you have a series of ex-wives. Although I suspect the main reason is that you are abusive.
I have one ex-wife and a 65% chance another one is on the way...
All the women I know feel they can say and do anything they please, I speak back verbally, and I rule my roost just fine. I have never hit a woman in my life, but I will hit a woman if she hits me first, especially a woman I don't know, that is well within the law. So lady don't hit me first in public, you won't be a happy camper. Chivalry has gone out my window in this country.
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But you like to put people on the defensive because it makes you feel strong, right?
What are you babeling about now woman? I don't feel strong I am strong, care to test me?
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depression is, at least in part, a biochemical condition
Has nothing to do with what goes on around you? The fact most lead empty lives, void of any type of fulfillment or service to others, can cause depression. With a drug industry that would sell anti-depressants to dogs and infant humans if they could!!!
Hmmm I don't feel like your telling me the truth on these things...I can tell that I hit the nail on the head on a few things...we will never know the truth with you, unless one of my friends dates you. But I am sure most of my buddies would pass, Mickey would. He'd go out with you once, especially if your a size 4.
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What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 14:17:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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But you like to put people on the defensive because it makes you feel strong, right?
What are you babeling about now woman? I don't feel strong I am strong, care to test me?
So easily Renae's point was proven... I'm amazed.
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depression is, at least in part, a biochemical condition
Has nothing to do with what goes on around you?
OK, so we're back to the reading comprehension problem again.
No, that was not what Renae said. She said that depression can partly be attributed to a biochemical condition
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Hmmm I don't feel like your telling me the truth on these things...
I see no reason to doubt her.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 17:28:24 [Permalink]
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was going to say something.... then I remember that I am officially ignoring verlch.
So I'll say it again, lets ALL just ignore his stupidity. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
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satans_mom
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 17:40:59 [Permalink]
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I have one ex-wife and a 65% chance another one is on the way...
All the women I know feel they can say and do anything they please, I speak back verbally, and I rule my roost just fine. I have never hit a woman in my life, but I will hit a woman if she hits me first, especially a woman I don't know, that is well within the law. So lady don't hit me first in public, you won't be a happy camper. Chivalry has gone out my window in this country.
That certainly goes against what GOD says in the BIBLE, doesn't it? Turn the other cheek! You're a pitiful example of a Christian. I don't think even Christianity itself would allow to have members like you.
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What are you babeling about now woman? I don't feel strong I am strong, care to test me?
We have been testing you. The only strength about you is your pure idiocism.
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Hmmm I don't feel like your telling me the truth on these things...I can tell that I hit the nail on the head on a few things...we will never know the truth with you, unless one of my friends dates you. But I am sure most of my buddies would pass, Mickey would. He'd go out with you once, especially if your a size 4.
What the HELL does Mickey have to do with anything???? Unless one of your friends dates her? I think it's about time you canceled your account with Skeptic Friends.
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verlch
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 21:31:45 [Permalink]
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I think it's about time you canceled your account with Skeptic Friends.
I think you should too....I like how you hold me to the laws of Christianity to mock me with. You don't even believe in the bible so quit judging me. You know about as much in the bible, as I do in evoluition!!! Unless your like the devil and you know the bible better than Christians!!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 21:48:06 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
I like how you hold me to the laws of Christianity to mock me with.
What's the problem with that? You've basically told us "the Bible is the standard by which we all should live," yet you cannot seem to live up to that standard. That's the basic hypocrisy which you are displaying: you set the standards for the behaviour of others, but don't hold yourself to that same standard.quote:
You don't even believe in the bible so quit judging me.
But don't you see? That's the perfect time to judge. satans_mom and others here aren't held to a "judge not, lest ye be judged" standard. You are. Deal with it.quote:
You know about as much in the bible, as I do in evoluition!!! Unless your like the devil and you know the bible better than Christians!!!!
Actually, I'm no Biblical scholar, but I believe I've shown that I know the Bible better than you do, verlch, on at least two ocassions. And congrats on parading your ignorance as a badge of honor, yet again. |
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Why not question something for a change?
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Terryt88
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 22:39:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Unless your like the devil and you know the bible better than Christians!!!!
Sorry to butt in here friend, but how could you be satisfied with your arch-nemesis, the epitome of evil in your life, the supreme bad guy of bad guys, know more about something that you devote your entire life to? If I were you I would find this disturbing.
I mean the reason I read and post here (and read the Bible among other things) is to constantly learn more. You know it may be a cliche, but knowledge is power my friend. |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 06/28/2004 : 06:30:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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My marriage is rock-solid, actually. And if marriage itself ends, why do you think that will destroy the government? What does the one have to do with the other? There's nothing in the Constitution which says that the President or members of Congress need to be married to hold office.
Marriage is a God ordained institution as a union between a man and a woman. They become one flesh, and this is the way God designed the family unit. Hell made it war against itself and now we have problems!!!! High divorece. Prisons are full of men from single mother households!!! So that is my take and a little bit of my stand on the issue!!!!
Four more completely unsupported assertations. Typical.
Religious marriage is unaffected by extending the rights of civil marriage to same sex couples. The whole debate around the Marriage amendment centers around blurring this line.
Civil marriages between same sex couples put exactly zero burden on religions as the religion is not compelled to recognize nor perform them.
Let's be absolutely clear about the differences between civil marriages and religious marriages.
Religious marriages are subject to the particular dogmas of that religion. If religious marriages and civil marriages were absolutely congruent, then atheists couldn't get married.
Civil marriages only extend the following privelidges to individuals.
1) The right to direct the medical care of an incapacitated partner
2) Shared custody of minor children
3) Rights of property succession
4) comingiling of assets
5) various tax benefits/burdens
6) The ability to gain medical coverage for partners
Now, as soon as you can explain to me rationally how extending these contractual obligations and benefits to homosexual couples damages religious marriage, I'll be willing to take you seriously. And "rationally" does not include "because I said so" or "because it offends God". Again, we are not talking about religious marriage (which the government is forbidden to make any ruling on per the First Amendment).
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 06/28/2004 : 06:32:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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But you like to put people on the defensive because it makes you feel strong, right?
What are you babeling about now woman? I don't feel strong I am strong, care to test me?
Can you stop with the dick waving now?
You have over 153 unsupported assertions and you just keep adding to the list. We are still waiting for you to defend your position with valid sources. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 07/05/2004 : 15:41:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Terryt88
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Originally posted by verlch
Unless your like the devil and you know the bible better than Christians!!!!
Sorry to butt in here friend, but how could you be satisfied with your arch-nemesis, the epitome of evil in your life, the supreme bad guy of bad guys, know more about something that you devote your entire life to? If I were you I would find this disturbing.
I mean the reason I read and post here (and read the Bible among other things) is to constantly learn more. You know it may be a cliche, but knowledge is power my friend.
The devil understands the bible better than christians...The bible is "the witness", you betcha he has a copy of it!!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 07/05/2004 : 15:44:35 [Permalink]
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Any group set up on earth that is supported in the bible is under attack...A gay man and a gay journalist have just as much free will as another guy, but to make gay marriage equal to the union between a man and a woman is unnatural!!! You can be married to the peice that fits the puzzle (woman) or choose to go against nature and god and get no benefits...
Are you the same guy that wants anything referring to God out of the public view, including prayer? |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Kil
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Posted - 07/05/2004 : 16:46:53 [Permalink]
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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