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Dave W.
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 Posted - 08/24/2004 : 19:22:22 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
How so??? You still can't prove evolution!!! You can't watch evolution happen in the last 500 million years because fossilzed animals have never changed!!!
Same old, same old. He thinks that debunking creationist arguments (which were debunked 20 years ago) requires "proving" evolution. And he thinks that he knows the paleontological evidence well enough to make asbolute statements about what it does or doesn't show (yet he cannot show us a living Homo habilus).
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 08/24/2004 : 20:42:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Woman said if evolution is true, than man invented the bible only to oppress women. So in order to restore some faith in American Women I will destroy evolution or anything attributing itself to it!
Is this your primary reason for disputing evolution, or merely an auxiliary one?
By the way, noble goal of your's--"Destroying [the theory of] evolution." I would have thought you might be content with denting it. Scratching it perhaps. Leaving it with a slight puffiness around the eyes and minor bruising. But destroying? Wow.
How is that going, anyways? How far away from completing your stated goal would you estimate you are?
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/24/2004 : 20:46:27 [Permalink]
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H.H. just browse this thread and you'll get a nice handle of verlch's style.
Start with page 1 and the first post. Then just read a sample here and there. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/25/2004 : 03:13:49 [Permalink]
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"And we'll go 'round and 'round and 'round in the circle game...."
Ah verlch me old sock, we've missed you. You and you alone can provide a nonsense fix beyond even Kent Hovind.
So, what are we on about this time, then? I do hope it's not petrified trees.
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furshur
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Posted - 08/25/2004 : 05:10:55 [Permalink]
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Verlch said:
Can we call you a metrosexual there pal!!!! Prepare to change the diapers...have the baby handed to you in front of your friends will you get a snotty, 'it's your turn'!!! Enjoy and then roll the dice and 50% of women will own your house and you'll be paying them money in the end!!!! You must have a pencil pushing job no????
The gall of women now-a-days! Expecting MEN to actually assist in the rearing of children. Don't women realize that duties of men end with depositing sperm.
Verlich may actually be the best evidence out there that we are closely related to the great apes.
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 08/25/2004 : 06:32:01 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Can we call you a metrosexual there pal!!!! Prepare to change the diapers...have the baby handed to you in front of your friends will you get a snotty, 'it's your turn'!!! Enjoy and then roll the dice and 50% of women will own your house and you'll be paying them money in the end!!!! You must have a pencil pushing job no????
From the depths of fundamentalist doctorine, the infamous verlch again proves that neanderthals walk amongst us.
Same unsupported claim of metrosexuality. This set of ad hominems is getting tired.
We are still waiting for you to actually support the 130+ assertions you have made. Your hiatus from this board hasn't made your arguements any more valid.
You really should get professional help for your hatred of women that you claim is respecting women by keeping them in assigned gender roles of the Victorian age. Might I suggest that Rapture Ready may be a more accepting discussion forum for your sexist tripe. Societal norms change over time, deal with it or get run over. |
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SciFi Chick
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Posted - 08/25/2004 : 06:52:56 [Permalink]
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| Furshur & Valient Dancer - You should be ashamed of yourselves for insulting great apes and neanderthals in this manner. |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 08/25/2004 : 06:59:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
[quote]Originally posted by PolarBear
Maybe this is a stupid question, but why does this thread exist? It seems to me that Verlch's assertions have been throughly examined and debunked...
How so??? You still can't prove evolution!!! You can't watch evolution happen in the last 500 million years because fossilzed animals have never changed!!!
Holy shit! I though for sure that you'd been taken up by the Rapture, verlch! And yet here you are replete with forum-posting ineptitude!
Glad you're back. I'm looking forward to seeing even more signs of misogynistic bitterness and scientific ignorance! |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/25/2004 : 07:24:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by SciFi Chick
Furshur & Valient Dancer - You should be ashamed of yourselves for insulting great apes and neanderthals in this manner.
You're absolutely right. I appologize to all the neandthals for lumping them into a class including verlch. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/25/2004 : 07:43:15 [Permalink]
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In truth, I find it difficult to think of a topic that we and verlch have not laborously covered to everyone's dissatisfaction. Hoping for something new to be dissatified about this time around. 
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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verlch
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 20:04:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
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How so??? You still can't prove evolution!!! You can't watch evolution happen in the last 500 million years because fossilzed animals have never changed!!!
Assertion #2930540921359: We have to physically watch something to know it has happened.
What you fail to see is that if I walk into a room and see that there is a knife in the back of some person lying on the ground, I can be sure that the person was murdered. Did I see the person get murdered? No.
In the same respect, when we see all of the fossils in different time periods slowly getting more complex and slowly changing from one form to another, we can conclude evolution. Did we have to see it? No.
And thats another point, we have physically observed 1st hand changes in species.
First handed micro changes. When a baby has downs, and you see it in the fossil record as different human, does that mean evolution is happening??? In the fossil record I am sure you find species of all different time periods in them!!!
What is different between fossils fossilized in your time frame 500 million years ago vs. today???? You said a bat was a tiny bit different!!! Still blind, how did that bat survive before his sonar evolved???? When he was fish food constantly!!! Your theories create billions of questions that need answers!!!! You can't just say this is how it happened because a bunch of mistake prone humans had 'radical evolution' meeting and agreed on the most logical explaintion of the current evolution ideals. Then these men scamper off and write a book about it and force Uncle Sam to use it in classrooms!!!! Crock of baloney!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
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Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 20:19:31 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
verlch wrote:quote:
How so??? You still can't prove evolution!!! You can't watch evolution happen in the last 500 million years because fossilzed animals have never changed!!!
Same old, same old. He thinks that debunking creationist arguments (which were debunked 20 years ago) requires "proving" evolution. And he thinks that he knows the paleontological evidence well enough to make asbolute statements about what it does or doesn't show (yet he cannot show us a living Homo habilus).
Nothing to see here, folks.
Well you know what you have about a trillion other species to find their Homo Habiluses!!! Then to make things a little more complex, you have to find the link between human and fishes!!! This little human homo habilus, what how many have been found, 2!!! A whole two!!!
http://www.mnh.si.edu/anthro/humanorigins/ha/ances_start.html
It would be nice to do some DNA testing on those pilkton men!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 20:27:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
quote:
Originally posted by SciFi Chick
Furshur & Valient Dancer - You should be ashamed of yourselves for insulting great apes and neanderthals in this manner.
You're absolutely right. I appologize to all the neandthals for lumping them into a class including verlch.
So now a neandrthal is a negotive thing??? I would think such a fabulous relation to distant four legged beasts would be most stimulating for the human mind. Thus elivate the whole human race!!! Monkies and hominoids as our distant brethern, puts the whole human race on a different plane!! I didn't realize our status was equal to the animals...
Since God gives man dominion over the whole earth and places us above every living thing...I find it demeaning that you would want to come from what you have dominion over!!! What are you men thinking???
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And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
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And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
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And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
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And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 20:30:55 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
Still blind, how did that bat survive before his sonar evolved????
The one who is blind is the one who refuses to see (I'm referring to you, verlch). Bats, actually, see pretty good. They're not blind, and never have been except in the popular mythology.quote:
Well you know what you have about a trillion other species to find their Homo Habiluses!!!
Nope, nothing new here, either.quote:
This little human homo habilus, what how many have been found, 2!!! A whole two!!!
Actually, I count eleven, and that may not be a complete list. |
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