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welshdean
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06/22/2004 : 20:13:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Verlch
Muslims.....<snip> Guess what they seem to be happy!
Oh yeah. They must have been ecstatic on 11th of september 2001.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 20:33:24 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
You boys can get ruled by your women, not me!!
Okay, the choices are:
A) Get beat up by women, or
B) get ruled by women.
From this real man's perspective, they look the same to me. I don't know why you let yourself get so whipped - literally and figuratively - by your woman. Doesn't God have something to say about that?
(For others here: yes, I really am joking above.)quote:
I'll trade em' in for forgein women...
Just by saying that, you show that you don't have clue one about women at all.quote:
It didn't hurt for very long after!!! That would be the end and I would be paying even more money...
Okay, what you really need, verlch, is a better damned lawyer. Any divorce settlement in which you wind up paying child support or alimony because you got beat up is a bad settlement. It's simply stupid.quote:
Muslims have complete control over women, to the fact that they keep covered so no man can see them!
Do us all a favor, and move to Pakistan. I heard on the radio tonight that the Muslims there welcome Christians with open arms. Nevermind the blasphemy laws, they don't apply to real Christians. |
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 22:51:30 [Permalink]
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Okay, what you really need, verlch, is a better damned lawyer. Any divorce settlement in which you wind up paying child support or alimony because you got beat up is a bad settlement. It's simply stupid.
I didn't get beat up man! It didn't hurt!!! What do you live in Sweden or something, the laws here are wacked and this country actually spends money to support these archaic laws!!! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 22:53:04 [Permalink]
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In America there are many many men false imprisoned for things they never did against women, like to the tune of 85,000 rape accusations and only 15,000 convictions in this country. Many convitions are overturned later based on DNA evidence.
gratuitous assertion... 210? I have lost count... |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 22:53:11 [Permalink]
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Do us all a favor, and move to Pakistan. I heard on the radio tonight that the Muslims there welcome Christians with open arms. Nevermind the blasphemy laws, they don't apply to real Christians.
I will gladly, I'll mind my own business in an island somewhere in the middle of nowheresville. Just all 1000 of my foreign wives...lol... |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2004 : 22:54:10 [Permalink]
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American men die much earlier than women, due to a life of extremely hard work and the stress of an untraditional marriage in which the husband has to share an equal amount of housework and most or all of the bills he has to pay.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 07:36:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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Get help, man. Serious help. Or better, why not pray to your little god to help you out. He cured your son, right? Maybe he can fix your fucked-up view of male-female relationships. Can't be any worse than the deranged rants you're presently posting!
I suppose your trying to make me laugh right??? You must be sitting on the tranistional fossil we have all been looking for!!!! Muslims have complete control over women, to the fact that they keep covered so no man can see them! Guess what they seem to be happy! Lets compare females not destroyed by feminazism...1. women are very very very likely to be a virgin in muslim countries. 2. Westurn woman have likely been defiled by many men by the time they are married.
1a. Muslim women are very verly likely to work hard to build up a family unit, and make the rooster of the house very happy! 2a. Western women are likely to demand that the husband do a traditional female role to make her happy, otherwise there will be a slow, slow heartbreaking break up!! 1b. If a muslim woman is raped she needs to have had it witnessed by another male, to avoid false imprisonment! 2b. In America there are many many men false imprisoned for things they never did against women, like to the tune of 85,000 rape accusations and only 15,000 convictions in this country. Many convitions are overturned later based on DNA evidence.
American men die much earlier than women, due to a life of extremely hard work and the stress of an untraditional marriage in which the husband has to share an equal amount of housework and most or all of the bills he has to pay.
65% of American marriages end in divorece...did I ask for it, no...Did I kiss butt to keep an unhappy alliance, heck no. Women want the best parts of being a man in mankind, and all the priviledge of being woman with 1/10th of what it takes to actually be equal with a man!!! Enjoy your unholy alliance with women and your wacked views of it!!!
Within the last six posts, add another 7 unsupported assertations.
We are still waiting for you to defend even one of your assertations with anything remotely approaching a source. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 07:41:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
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Verlch, it's all I can do to stop myself from offering you a gratiutious and mean-spirited insult.
So instead, I'll tell you to kiss my size 4 college-graduate gainfully-employed independent free-thinking ass.
Maybe Affemitive action can get you a job, that you only have to work 10 hrs a week and you are paid as much as a man!!!! Perhaps you can take five years off for having a 'baby', wasn't Hillary C. trying to push something like that through! Good for you 'woman'.
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So instead, I'll tell you to kiss my size 4 college-graduate gainfully-employed independent free-thinking ass.
I'd like to see a picture, but from what I've heard you should have said size 14 ass, how could I miss that!!! (come on that's only meant to be funny guys)
So, miss universe, are you on the '89 years old and i'll have a kid plan?' After my career takes off you will have a kid!!! After 36 your chances of having a normal child diminish!!! (only meant to be informative, and silly)
Of course I made a few assumptions that I'm sure she will correct me on, but my assumptions are based off of some facts in this PC country of ours!
You keep on talking about these "facts" of yours but have yet to provide even one source for your assumptions. Therefore, your facts are questionable. I'm betting that they are based on your own personal theology and not off of any part of reality. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2004 : 07:52:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
[brMuslims have complete control over women, to the fact that they keep covered so no man can see them! Guess what they seem to be happy!
Yet another unsupported assertion.
Fact is that Muslim women wear the burka for modesty purposes.
Qu'ran 4:34
"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."
One must keep in mind that this is from a document which had the societal norms of 1300 years ago where women were property. Still, women are urged to be modest in their dress. The burka grew out of this. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2004 : 08:51:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
Muslims have complete control over women, to the fact that they keep covered so no man can see them! Guess what they seem to be happy!
Verlch, you've never even been to a Muslim country. You have no idea what you're talking about. All you've done is conjure up some sterotypical (and tragic) Orientalist fantasy. Women are all virgins! They live only to serve the male!
And your views on rape in the Middle East are so far off the mark that it's disgusting. Women who are raped in the Middle East are quite frequently killed, you idiot. This, because they aren't virgins anymore and thus no longer marriagable. When not killed, they are treated as outcasts, or sometimes forced to marry their rapist.
When I was last in Syria (when was the last time you even spoke to a Mulim, verlch?) a woman in the village where I was staying was caught having sex. Both she and the man were unmarried, but the sex was consentual. The man suffered no penalty. The young woman (still a teen-ager) wasn't so lucky. Her brother paid the local police to "look the other way" so he wouldn't be punished for killing here. Which he promptly did-- too much dishonor to the family.
What a wonderful, happy, way of living! (An interesting piece appeared in the NY Times a few years ago entitled "For Shame" about similar such happenings. It's by Douglas Jehl, and it appeared in the 20 June 1999 paper. I found a copy for free here, but I don't know if all computers have permission to access it. In any event, I doubt that verlch will bother to look at it, but others might be interested.)
Verlch stupidly said:
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American men die much earlier than women, due to a life of extremely hard work and the stress of an untraditional marriage in which the husband has to share an equal amount of housework and most or all of the bills he has to pay.
Idiot. Idiot! Here-- look at this site. Too lazy to do it? Let me quote the relevant parts:
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Women outlive men in almost every society. In more developed countries, the average life expectancy at birth is 79 years for women, 72 years for men. In less developed countries, where high maternal mortality reduces the difference in longevity, women can expect to live an average of 66 years, compared with 63 years for men.
Too dense to figure out what this means? Let me explain it too you: even in traditional countries-- for example, Islamic nations like Syria or Saudi Arabia, women live longer than men. So trying to equate this with gender equality looks weak.
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What explains this persistent difference? Part of the answer is behavioral. Men are more likely to smoke than women and are also more likely to take risks, making them more susceptible to life-threatening injuries. Biological differences also help to explain women's higher longevity. Scientists believe that estrogen in women combats conditions such as heart disease by helping reduce circulatory levels of harmful cholesterol. Women are also thought to have stronger immune systems than men.
Researchers have found that the gender gap in life expectancy is smallest for the wealthy and highly educated, suggesting that broadening access to quality health care, diet, and other advantages can help men achieve a level of longevity closer to that of women.
Oops. In places like the US, the gap in life expectancy is lowest! So your stupid, childish idea that because of "feminazis" men are dying earlier than they would otherwise is wrong.
Look at the chart they feature showing the gender gap in the US over time (like you really will). Notice that the gap increases-- that is, women live longer and longer than men-- for most of the century. But starting in about 1970, that gap goes down. Hmmm. 1970. That was right about the time that women's rights really began to surface.
It's possible to suggest, then, that the movement for gender equality has actually been an equalizer in life expectancy, too. Indeed, your argument shouldn't be that feminism has lowered men's life expectancy, but that it's lowered women's! (Of course, someone would have to test this hypothesis to see if it's valid, but that's beyond the scope of this post...)
Ever the trolling-idiot, verlch concluded:
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Enjoy your unholy alliance with women and your wacked views of it!!!
Right. I've just proven that what you said is wrong, and yet it's my views that are "wacked". Riiiight!
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
1536 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2004 : 09:01:37 [Permalink]
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Verlich, I think I have identified why women seem to run away from you.
You are offensive, you don't listen and you are mean spirited.
It is hard to really get a sense of a person on a forum, but from what you have written, I could not imagine any reason why anyone would want to even talk to you.
The only reason I am addressing you in a forum is that I don't actually have to be in the same room with you.
I know that this is kind of harsh. There are only 2 reasons that I am writting this:
1. You are thick skinned enough that I am sure you don't care.
2. It is true.
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 09:52:02 [Permalink]
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Here some charts for you vultures...lol...Pick this one appart!!
http://christianparty.net/divrate.htm
That says some really good stuff. I support patriarchy, to treat the women good, but to still rule the roost. I will do that if I live in America or the ocean!!!
We have only 5% of the population and over 2/3rds of the male prison populations! Something is wrong here! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 09:55:00 [Permalink]
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It is hard to really get a sense of a person on a forum, but from what you have written, I could not imagine any reason why anyone would want to even talk to you.
I have about 10 really good frieds outside of this forum, he he...Seems as though I haven't any friends in here!! That's ok! I don't mind. As for me standing for something, I doubt that is a reason nobody wants to talk to me! Againg folks can do as they please! |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 10:02:54 [Permalink]
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I just destroyed two main assumptions you've made, and you don't even respond?!? You really are a troll!
Do you still believe what you've said? Do you still believe that feminism is the reason why women have higher life expectancies in the US? If so, then you lead a sad and pathetic life. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 06/23/2004 : 10:26:17 [Permalink]
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That's what verlch does.... you show him he's wrong, and he ignores you and drops yet another unsupported assertion on you.
As for this link he posted about divorce rates and economy... verlch, it's a case of faulty causation. Sadly, there are plenty of idiots out there who can be convinced by such arguments.
You could take that entire bogus site, replace their reference to feminism with "illegal hispanic immigrant", and get the same result.
You could plug in "increased population" and get the same result...
I know I am wasting my time.... |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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