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seb
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France
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 Posted - 08/17/2001 : 06:55:53
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I read a survey which show that around 60% of recruting in France make use of graphology. Pretty scary is not it?
It seems that most of the time graphology is used to make a first elimination among the candidates. If they want some arbitrary way to eliminate candidates they could use the random function on their computers it would be less expensive.
Is it so popular in the states?
I heard that numerology is quite used in England. it is more like lottery at least.
Seb
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gdaye
New Member
Canada
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 Posted - 08/17/2001 : 07:25:39 [Permalink]
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It was very popular a few years ago in the US, but never caught on in Canada.
To show how scientific it is, there were schools set up which would teach you to change your handwriting to fit the ideals of the company you had applied to.
In other words, graphology, as a clue to character, is as useful as studying the entrails of crows.
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Aodoi
New Member
USA
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Posted - 08/17/2001 : 07:40:58 [Permalink]
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There was recently a dilbert on this. Dogbert using graphology to find out which employees steal. I think it pretty well summed up the "scientific" nature of this particular "ology."
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seb
New Member
France
40 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2001 : 08:06:02 [Permalink]
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Last year I had a course on recruting. Just to know the basic pit fall when you apply for your first job. The intresting part was that the course was given by someone working in a recruting company and the funny one is that she was a graphlogiste (is that correct?) and really belived in it. I had so much fun!
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Lisa
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 08/17/2001 : 08:10:16 [Permalink]
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Last year I had a course on recruting. Just to know the basic pit fall when you apply for your first job. The intresting part was that the course was given by someone working in a recruting company and the funny one is that she was a graphlogiste (is that correct?) and really belived in it. I had so much fun!
Seb
I could have a field day with someone like that. What sort of questions did you ask her? Did you ask her about double-blind studies? Confirmation Bias?
Now you know why my husband dragged me out of that golf shop that was selling magnetic bracelets. Or as he put it "Lisa, you can be a real pain in the ass sometimes"
Lisa
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seb
New Member
France
40 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2001 : 02:10:04 [Permalink]
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could have a field day with someone like that. What sort of questions did you ask her? Did you ask her about double-blind studies? Confirmation Bias?
Even if she was not a teacher it was still a course so we could not spend all our time debating about graphology and she has interesting things to say in other fields anyway. But when she did a "special" on graphology she started like that "even if you do not belive in it some people will use this to make a selection so you it is better that you know how its works" that kind of killed the possibility to speak about it only on the credibility of graphology. During the presentation she admit that graphology is question of interpretation and that results can be different between "analysts". When we ask her if she as "moral" problems using such a contestable mean to select people she said that all tools used in recruting are contestable.
To sum up she uses graphology because she is asked to but she never pretends that it is reliable (at least during the course, what she say to her clients I do not know). But this is kind of symptomatic ,things are done arbitrary and some poeple try to justify it with science.
I might become rich by selling a software supposed to used a very complicated parsing algorithm to select people while in fact just using the random generator.
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Marc_a_b
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 08/20/2001 : 04:46:47 [Permalink]
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On Shermer's Exploring the Unkown they did a segment on graphology. Funny thing is I actualy encountered the graphologist they had on the show. She happened to be posting on the board of medium Suzane Northorp.
She tried to convince me of the 'scientific' evidence for mediumship by bringing up Dr. Gary Schwartz. I knew more about him than she did and pointed out he's a major crackpot. Didn't hear from her after that.
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bestonnet_00
Skeptic Friend
Australia
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Posted - 08/21/2001 : 01:32:58 [Permalink]
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A Random Number Generator is probably more reliable then graphology for choosing who gets the job.
Radioactive GM Crops.
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andysnape
New Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/14/2001 : 05:27:31 [Permalink]
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I don't think numerology has ever become a major methodology for recruiting over here in Old Blighty, unless of course one is applying for a job with the British Society of Numerology.
By the way, I think anyone who writes a book or paper on graphology should be subjected to a graphological test to find out how hopelessly unscientific they are.
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I read a survey which show that around 60% of recruting in France make use of graphology. Pretty scary is not it?
It seems that most of the time graphology is used to make a first elimination among the candidates. If they want some arbitrary way to eliminate candidates they could use the random function on their computers it would be less expensive.
Is it so popular in the states?
I heard that numerology is quite used in England. it is more like lottery at least.
Seb
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