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sega
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USA
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Posted - 04/28/2001 :  17:18:53  Show Profile Send sega a Private Message
Poll Question:
If your child could only take classes on 1 subject in highschool, what would it be?



Results:
Math   [36%] 73 votes
Literature (english)   [17%] 35 votes
Home Economics   [2%] 4 votes
Biology   [3%] 7 votes
Chemistry   [4%] 9 votes
Philosophy   [20%] 41 votes
History   [16%] 32 votes
PE   [2%] 4 votes


Poll Status: Locked  »»   Total Votes: 205 counted  »»   Last Vote: 06/28/2005 19:03:05 

@tomic
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USA
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Posted - 04/28/2001 :  17:23:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
Hey Hey! A new poll! This looks good for a feature poll.

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sega
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USA
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Posted - 04/28/2001 :  19:04:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sega a Private Message
Just thought I should explain the poll. I beleive that the reason there is a need for skeptic organisations is lack of critical thinking in primary education. Learning how to think is important, and it leads to proper decision making and conclusions when applied to everyday life. I thought it would be interesting to find out what part of high school people think is important above all others. Lets face it, If you don't learn all the stuff in grades 1-8, high scool ain't gonna help much.

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Dog_Ed
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Posted - 04/30/2001 :  22:17:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dog_Ed's Homepage Send Dog_Ed a Private Message
Sega, as a father of an 11-year-old I can't really answer your question because any one of the subjects shown would give an impossibly one-sided non-education. I'd have to home-school my son if these were my only choices. The ability to read well is absolutely key to continued learning, yet without math there is much that cannot be grasped about science. And without chemistry, biology, and physics many of the ways math connects to the physical world are obscure.


"Even Einstein put his foot in it sometimes"
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sega
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USA
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Posted - 05/03/2001 :  14:16:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sega a Private Message
The idea i'm trying to see is what one thing people think is most important after you've learned to read (and hopefully spell, didn't stick for me) and do basic math etc, etc. Lets face it, a large majority of what people learned in HS disappears shortly after leaving if one does not continue their education. Obviously, you can't be a well educated person with only one subject.

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TFarnon
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Posted - 05/21/2001 :  00:54:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send TFarnon a Private Message
Math drives physics. Physics drives chemistry and engineering. Chemistry drives biology. Biology drives medicine, psychology and other stuff like that. If you can't do the math, it makes it very difficult to do the rest.

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@tomic
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Posted - 05/21/2001 :  20:06:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
quote:
If you can't do the math, it makes it very difficult to do the rest.


I am so screwed!

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Zandermann
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Posted - 05/21/2001 :  21:18:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Zandermann an AOL message Send Zandermann a Private Message
quote:
Math drives physics. Physics drives chemistry and engineering. Chemistry drives biology. Biology drives medicine, psychology and other stuff like that. If you can't do the math, it makes it very difficult to do the rest.


As a math teacher (high school level), it has always seemed to me that, more than the subject matter of math 'driving' the rest, it's the *process*, the exercises in critical thinking and analysis of data, that puts the capable mathematician in the driver's seat.

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broven
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Posted - 05/21/2001 :  22:12:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send broven a Private Message
quote:

Lets face it, a large majority of what people learned in HS disappears shortly after leaving if one does not continue their education


It's not so much what you learn, it's how you learn it. Schools are notorious for teaching you the answers to the questions on the test, without teaching you why they are the answers. We become indoctrinated into this rote memorization of answers pretty early on. We are, in fact, not taught to ask why.

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ljbrs
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USA
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Posted - 05/27/2001 :  15:18:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ljbrs a Private Message
Great poll!

I believe that, in order to study biology or chemistry (or any other science), one must have a good understanding of mathematics. On the other hand, there are many infamous antiscientific folks who are excellent mathematicians. A correct course in biology might help, on the other hand, in dispelling many creationist tendencies. And, then again, it might not...

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Zandermann
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Posted - 06/01/2001 :  22:43:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Zandermann an AOL message Send Zandermann a Private Message
quote:
Schools are notorious for teaching you the answers to the questions on the test, without teaching you why they are the answers. We become indoctrinated into this rote memorization of answers pretty early on. We are, in fact, not taught to ask why.


Not all schools, not all teachers......In fact, I take a lot of heat during the school year for answering students' questions by walking them through the solution, rather than with a direct 'spoon-feeding'.

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sega
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USA
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Posted - 06/02/2001 :  15:54:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sega a Private Message
Dammit, Math won! I was so hoping for it to be Home Ec.

Must be a whole lotta science types on the board, I kinda thought history would get more answers.

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Lisa
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USA
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Posted - 06/02/2001 :  16:00:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Maybe you should have added Driver's Ed.

Seriously, you knew math would win. Without math, how could I have done sight transposition in Jazz ensemble?
Maybe a better question would have been "Based on your high school experience, what was the most useless class?"
Lisa

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CM
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Posted - 06/02/2001 :  16:16:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CM a Private Message
Yeah, whar's woud shopp et?

Seriously tho, good poll.
Wonder when the day will come when there's a intro to critical thinking class in grade/middle/high school classes?
And what's the curriculum like for the rest of the world?
Friends here in Austin, Tx. are sponsoring a high school student from East Germany. Said the classes are much tighter, education wise, over there,
but more fun over here.

Now, why did I expect that answer?! :-(
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Lisa
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Posted - 06/02/2001 :  16:28:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
A class in critical thinking would do young students so much good later in life. Fortunately, I had a teacher who incorporated this into his everyday class. Surprise, it was my advance English Lit teacher.
Think of all the businesses that would go under in a few years. Astrologers, homeopathics, palmists, tarot card readers...
Hey wait a minute, would we have to support these quacks on welfare? Nah, let them find honest work.
Lisa

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sega
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USA
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Posted - 06/02/2001 :  16:59:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sega a Private Message
Hey now! Wood shop was cool. I learned many valuable lessons, like how to type without an index finger, how to construct a bong,and huffing varnish as an alternative to drinking beer.



Edited by - sega on 06/02/2001 17:00:10
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