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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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 Posted - 07/29/2001 : 20:56:41 [Permalink]
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Defend your daughters right to become what ever she wants. Standing behind her choices is something that will give her confidence in herself. That will go a long way for her in her future.
Are you talking to me? If so, my X-daughter can do whatever the hell she wants(and she has). I never stopped her. I was pretty much done with her when at 2 years old, I tried to tell her she was a boy. She insisted she was not. I can't think of any reason someone would want to be female, I don't know anything about them or how to talk to them so my mother pretty much did that for me. The x-daughter is close to my X-sister, they are both pushy bithes. I think the daughter got that from the sister and also the times she grew up in.
So if I were you I wouldn't worry about her future. LOL.
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Wendy
SFN Regular
USA
614 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2001 : 22:04:25 [Permalink]
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I was forced to vote for Home Ec. I can add, subtract, multiply, and divide. I can read, write, and diagram sentences. However, I need to eat, and I can't cook. I feel the system has failed me. 
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2001 : 22:34:25 [Permalink]
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I was forced to vote for Home Ec. I can add, subtract, multiply, and divide. I can read, write, and diagram sentences. However, I need to eat, and I can't cook. I feel the system has failed me.
Wendy Jones
I'm not quite understanding the connection.
One does not need to know how to cook to eat.
The best tasting food I eat is what I grow myself and eat right off the tree.
BTW, I was FORCED to TAKE those cooking and sewing classes in Jr. high school and am very angry forever about that. It was so humiliating. I don't cook or sew either. Yuk. LOL, well actually I do cook but no one else eats it.
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sega
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 07/30/2001 : 15:11:31 [Permalink]
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I was forced to vote for Home Ec. I can add, subtract, multiply, and divide. I can read, write, and diagram sentences. However, I need to eat, and I can't cook. I feel the system has failed me.
Wendy Jones
Interestingly enough, Cooking and its related arts of brewing, and horticulture can be considered science.
If you do not beleive it, pick up a book on brewing or attempt to explain bread. It's quite fascinating that such mundane subjects are really quite complex.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2001 : 15:45:50 [Permalink]
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Interestingly enough, Cooking and its related arts of brewing, and horticulture can be considered science.
If you do not beleive it, pick up a book on brewing or attempt to explain bread. It's quite fascinating that such mundane subjects are really quite complex.
Yes, I know. When I do mix stuff (foods and spices, etc.) togather I do think of it as creating a mixture like in a lab. When you know what the ingredients do when combined you can imagin what they will become(or taste like). Just like mixing glaze colors for ceramics or chemicals for photo prosessing.
If I didn't think of cooking that way I wouldn't do it at all. It would be womens work and not fun.
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Wendy
SFN Regular
USA
614 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2001 : 05:51:35 [Permalink]
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It would be womens work and not fun.
Okay, I know that's bait, and I've been letting it dangle for what seems like forever... I can't take it any longer...
WOMEN'S WORK?! AAAWWWWWUUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!! 
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2001 : 07:51:57 [Permalink]
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AAAWWWWWUUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!!
Wendy Jones
Now doesn't that feel better?
LOL
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Wendy
SFN Regular
USA
614 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2001 : 19:55:32 [Permalink]
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I do feel much better. Thank you. 
Here's another thing (albeit slightly off topic) that's been bugging me for a long time. One of the school systems in my area has a radio promotion that drove me crazy last year, and has already started up again. The program is called "Value of the Week". The school announces a "theme value" and the teachers and students are supposed to discuss it, practice it, and find ways to encourage others to do the same throughout the course of the week.
You might ask why I have a problem with what sounds like a wholesome idea. My problem is that the schools cannot effectively teach the basics. I frequently see clients who have graduated from high school without learning to read. If we give teachers the responsibility of teaching values we take more time away from academics. IMO that is not acceptable.
Of equal, or perhaps greater, importance to me is that as a parent I want the responsibility for teaching my children values. Compassion is the value of the week this week. I want the right to explain to them what being compassionate means, as well as when showing "compassion" is a mistake. Let the school system stick to teaching them how to spell it.
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Penyprity
Skeptic Friend
64 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2001 : 00:40:56 [Permalink]
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I know I am a little late coming to the party, but I just had to chime in here. The only problem I had with this question, is that it would depend on which child I was making this decision for.
I have two children who are as different as night and day. I choose Math because I believe that we deal with things mathematical every day..from shopping to balancing our checkbooks, to buying gas for our cars, to buying cars. And I believe that critical thinking is a process of logic and information. Logic, to me, is mathematical.
Here is where I have the problem. Both my kids are artistic, but one takes an interest in some political issues and the other one really doesnt pay to much attention to the events of the day, unless it shows up in some tech magazine. My daughter's bedroom could be considered a hazardous waste dump, she doesnt cook and has no interest in history (currently in cosmotology school)..and my son spends his time split between computer tech (currently in school to get a degree in telecommunications and electrical engineering) and playing jazz piano. You can see where math would be the logical choice.
I believe that they would both benefit from History classes. They both read, neither can spell (although my family is missing the spelling gene) and although I like science very much, I think our political future is extremely important. They need to understand our past, in order to move forward. As we can see from a recent vote in the House of Representatives on stem cell research..even our scientific future depends on some level, on politics. So I would be remise as a parent to suggest that the only subject they will need is math.
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bjones
Skeptic Friend
Australia
82 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2001 : 05:06:32 [Permalink]
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I hated English, but I had to vote for that because without it I would never of been able to read any of your posts
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2001 : 20:38:56 [Permalink]
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I hated English, but I had to vote for that because without it I would never of been able to read any of your posts
Well! Being able to read isn't the only way to communicate.
Pictures can be an effective way of making known ones ideas.
One photo assignment we had was to take a line from a poem and make a photo out of it. After all these years I still remember that. It was one of my favorite projects.
Reading words is confussing. However you do have a point.
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hatten_jc
New Member
Sweden
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Posted - 12/17/2001 : 14:29:50 [Permalink]
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If your child could only take classes on 1 subject in highschool, what would it be?
i chose Philosofy as my primary and if there where a secondary choise i would have said History.
In Philosfy you learn to think critical and open you self to new idee to and you see that what once where the TRUTH may one day be a lie and thats some thing evry one needs to lern.
In Philosfy you also lern how to find you own truth and analyse what other are saing and even argument.
This make it esy for you to look beond the esy answers in life as any true Philosfer know THERE ARE NO Esy Solution....
History for if you dont know you history you are condeamd to repeat it...
Never underestemate a humans capaity for activ stupity
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hatten_jc
New Member
Sweden
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Posted - 12/17/2001 : 14:55:49 [Permalink]
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It is sad that they haven't developed those skills by the time they get to you. Kids are smart enough to start learning critical thinking skills the first time they begin to question the why of the world around them.
The easy answer is that a lot of kids grow up by themselves these days, with their primary education in their formative years being the tube.
The harder question lies in how we might be able to combat this.
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Unfortunately many parents don't take the time develop those skills or just give the awful stock answer ::gawd:: says so. Eek!
Add to that the overwhelming majority of parents that never hear their kids' questions, or have *no* idea how to deal with them.
Read a great line from that contempory philosopher Terry Pratchett:
(paraphrase) "Sometimes I wish parents had to take a proper exam before having children, instead of just passing the practical."
truth and a scary truth it is.
TV as a parent is something many children have around the world..
Another thing that I find scary is this..
fue male are attracted to SMART and KIND girls most male are atracted to silikon pumpt floting like girls looks not smarts..
And Fue Female are attracted to SMART and KIND Male..
the stigma of Nerds and Eggheads wierdo is labeld on thos that think philosfy and are you kind the female/male will stamp on you.
Personly i am attracted to SMART girls but when i was younger i was most intresed in how the girl lookt and that cause me many pains and regrets later in life.
TV and comersel incres this fantasy of what a male/female are suposedly to look like and never do we see a SMART sucsessfull hero with love and mony.
OR a SMART sucseffull herogirl with love and mony.
THAT would be fun to watch.
many children in Sweden and in USA (that i have talk to ) seem to thinks books and knowledge is nerdy and study is wrong.
If Smartnes and Kindnees where a biger premium in TV and among movie heros maby after a while the power of TV propaganda would help creat a bether world.
many of the problem children have in school is cause becuse they see that Geeks and nerds are esy to bulli around on TV and they lern that this is the right way to do it.
Hatten prowd being a frindly, kind and geek :)
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
775 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2001 : 02:15:52 [Permalink]
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Sorry, but can't have no kids--God in His eternal wisdom and through the divine intervention of cancer chose to relieve us of the chores of parenthood. I am in awe of such benevolence, and the capacity of love for His object of creation.
Am I bitter? Well, maybe a bit.
Anyways, if I had a choice I would choose whatever course taught him/her-her/him more of how to think, rather than what to think. Wow, doesn't that sound cliche'. Sorry.
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PhDreamer
SFN Regular
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2001 : 07:12:23 [Permalink]
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Hatten_jc, your posts are actually rather easy to read and you seem to be a lucid thinker with a great sense of humor, but I must say some of your phonetic spellings are cracking me up! Please take no offense, I spent a year in Spain so I know how difficult it can be communicating as a non-native speaker. I couldn't begin to understand Swedish; I don't even know the alphabet! Ciao amigo. 
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