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verlch
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 Posted - 09/29/2004 : 22:55:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
verlch wrote:quote:
My thoughts are to stick with the King James Version of the 1500's!!!!
You do know that King James was probably a homosexual, right?
http://hector3000.future.easyspace.com/kjames.htm
seems as though he was a figure head used to be a version to the kings, no? |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 07:43:35 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
seems as though he was a figure head used to be a version to the kings, no?
Ah, no? I can't even figure out what you were trying to say. Great page you linked, though:King James I, among his many other faults, preferred young boys to adult women. He was a flaming homosexual. His activities in that regard have been recorded in numerous books and public records; so much so, that there is no room for debate on the subject. The King was queer. The very people who use the King James Bible today would be the first ones to throw such a deviant out of the congregations.
The depravity of King James I didn't end with sodomy. James enjoyed killing animals. He called it "hunting." Once he killed an animal, he would literally roll about in its blood. Some believe that he practiced bestiality while the animal lay dying. Your link shows that James was a guy who most Christians would shun, yet you cling to his version of the Bible above all others.
Your link to show that James' translation of the Bible was created to assert God's place in the chruch, and not with the people, a position antithetical to Protestantism, yet you praise his work.
Your link also shows that James created his Bible in order to strip the marginalia out of the popular Bible of the day, and institute a government-approved Bible. Despite having whined about censorship here on the SFN, by claiming that the KJV is the best Bible, you're condoning James' massive act of censorship.
You're a hypocrite, verlch. And the more you post, the more you demonstrate that hypocrisy. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 09/30/2004 : 13:24:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
So, basically, all those translations above are saying that god will force a prophet to lie (because he doesn't like whomever the prophet is about to speak to) and then either banish or kill the prophet.
That's funny.
The Amplified Bible-quote above is the one that makes most sense. To me anyway. |
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verlch
SFN Regular
781 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2004 : 22:04:42 [Permalink]
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I like the it. It is right form Hebrew or some such. So what translation in English should I use? Yes he was a sinner, but so is everybody. Did he do what they say? Seems like many would love things like this to be true. We don't need a million translations for one verse.
The origin of species has one translantion. The bible, is being disfigured by the devil himself. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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26022 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2004 : 00:19:58 [Permalink]
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verlch wrote:quote:
The origin of species has one translantion.
No, it's got lots of translations into languages other than English. It was written in English, and so has no English translations at all. |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
2322 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2004 : 09:28:29 [Permalink]
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| Yup. Translations to portuguese, spanish, franch, italian, and so forth. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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verlch
SFN Regular
781 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2004 : 12:45:59 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
verlch wrote:quote:
The origin of species has one translantion.
No, it's got lots of translations into languages other than English. It was written in English, and so has no English translations at all.
You don't have millions of people trying to make the "Origin of Species" easier to read by different translations in English, is what I meant.
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What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2004 : 15:23:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by verlch
You don't have millions of people trying to make the "Origin of Species" easier to read by different translations in English, is what I meant.
Shure we do, only... "Only the names have been changed to protect the innocent..."
There are dozens, hundred, yes probably thousands of popular-science books out there that is meant to explain evolution to the layman. How those and their contents managed to escape you...that's your problem. What's worse, you're making it other's problem too. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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| Edited by - Dr. Mabuse on 10/02/2004 15:28:44 |
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R.Wreck
SFN Regular
USA
1191 Posts |
Posted - 09/02/2006 : 13:42:24 [Permalink]
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I had contacted the National Center for Science Education about the Orion Center. Recently I was contacted by someone else who also contacted NCSE. He is part of an organization which is attempting to end the Orion Center's receipt of public finding and to get them to bay back what they have already taken. He sent me some pictures taken at the Center. It is worse than I thought:
Also more drivel from their latest newsletter:
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There is a renewed interest in catastrophism
among modern geologists. Thursday May 18 at
7:00 PM we will present a free showing of the
Institute for Creation Research video about the
1980 Mount St. Helens eruption with an informal
talk about the effects of that event on the
geographic region and the science of geology.
How this outfit can call itself a "science center" just baffles me. They really should rename it the "Orion Creationist Center.  |
The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley
The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 09/03/2006 : 03:58:40 [Permalink]
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Where the hell are these 3.5 billion year old fossils and why are they fully formed? If evolution is true as so many say. Whaaa?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! He's back!!!! His thinking and learning abilities have not improved at all. That's why we love the guy. He's the one and only... Let's hear it for...
VERLCH!!!
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2006 : 08:21:30 [Permalink]
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| No, Hawks, he's not back. verlch's last post to this thread was almost two years ago. R.Wreck was just giving us an update. |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 09/03/2006 : 10:23:05 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
No, Hawks, he's not back. verlch's last post to this thread was almost two years ago. R.Wreck was just giving us an update.
Yeah- I was about to post a big "welcome back" too until I started looking at the date. Alas! |
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